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Sanpoil
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 9:59:52 AM

Texas’s bid to keep control of its own greenhouse gas permitting program was rejected by a divided federal appeals court in a decision that supports a takeover by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

In a 2-1 ruling, the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington said today that Texas, Wyoming, Peabody Energy Corp. and industry groups aren’t in a legal position to challenge federal rules governing the revision of state implementation plans, known as SIPs. The ruling follows the court’s holding last year that the EPA’s limits on greenhouse gas emissions are lawful.

The parties cannot show harm because “the permitting requirements are self-executing” under the Clean Air Act, U.S. Circuit Judge Judith Rogers wrote in a majority opinion joined by Judge David Tatel.


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blupupher
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:52:11 AM

So much for a fair and equal government and states rights. The EPA is a monster with nobody holding the leash.
jrs4125
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 9:10:06 AM

I agree with the feds.
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 5:33:27 AM

The government is on the road to taking over all things if possible. Talk about a "1984" situation. They tell us the gas to use, the lights to buy for starters of a whole list of take overs and the majority of the public says that is alright. For those that think it is alright think that this is just the start.
Eugenian
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 4:05:58 AM

Texas, schmexas.
SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 11:47:15 PM

From the article: "Texas, Wyoming, Peabody Energy Corp. and industry groups aren’t in a legal position to challenge federal rules governing the revision of state implementation plans, known as SIPs. The ruling follows the court’s holding last year that the EPA’s limits on greenhouse gas emissions are lawful."

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Actually, They ARE in a legal position through "interposition" or "nullification" of unconstitutional federal laws. But don't expect a federal Court to limit the federal government anywhere.
Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:00:07 PM

I don't blame Texas for their efforts.

You never know:
In a few short decades there may be a new divided United States, divided after multiple states revolt and secede from the union - a union called Washington that today acts more like a socialist kingdom. For the same reasons we revolted against King George III of England, the same history may repeat itself in America.
fajeff01
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 9:11:47 PM

Good - Texas acts like it wants to be its own nation anyways.
TravellinTom
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 6:14:34 PM

The US EPA should be abolished!!!
mitt4prez
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 5:22:03 PM

So it will be appealed to the Supreme Court and it will depend on what Anthony Kennedy had for lunch that day.
bklynse
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 4:48:38 PM

States rights are constantly being disregarded. We need to fight back in every way possible!
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 4:42:33 PM

The courts and EPA are both out of control. Both need to be restrained. The EPA clearly oversteps its bounds. Regulating greenhouse gases is not within their authority.
bston
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 4:27:50 PM

EPA is out of control, has too much power & is accountable to no one.
Joeski1
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 1:09:54 PM

smart, intelligent , prgressive, mindful, ethical, moral, and for ALL anericans...

there are so many ways to describe the messiah and his minions.
Joeski1
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 1:08:53 PM

Texas gov't should get with it.

they are stuck back in the 1950's....

THIS JUST OUT: it's 2013!!!
bsnort
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 12:47:13 PM

Nonsensical, arrogant, above the law - there are so many ways to describe the messiah and his minions.
eomc17
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 12:15:22 PM

Great, now the EPA has even more power than they ever needed. Their egos are so big and arrogance so extreme that they fair no man nor state. The EPA and IRS are having great joy in punishing Americans, especially conservatives or anyone who supposedly opposes Obozo.
ds2dale
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:58:43 AM

Looking at the bigger picture:

Can anyone name for me any department, agency, or even panel of the United States central government (it's not 'Federal' anymore, look it up) that is even minimally competent? Can any of them actually do the task for which they were created? Except the DoD, they actually do know how to make war, kill people and break things.
daytonabiker
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:40:08 AM

I know the EPA should be abolished.
EPA =Enjoys Punishing Americans
BlueVanGroup
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:30:02 AM


"It would be 'borderline nonsensical' for the EPA to give a state three years to meet new emissions requirements while imposing those new standards during that same time, [Circuit Judge Brett] Kavanaugh said."

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Nonsensical describes many of this administration's policies, but they don't let reality get in their way.
RNCII
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:25:34 AM

I still think the EPA should be abolished.
Vetteblu
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:23:03 AM

Just let the Feds screw things up!!
LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:19:41 AM

If states can have independent standards on pollution, then Texas should have independent greenhouse standards.
fedupMN
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:17:55 AM

I suspect this story is not over.
wmderrick
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:12:26 AM

What happen to federalism?
humblepie
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:11:57 AM

laws are passed by congress not the Obama's epa
gypsymom3
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:11:12 AM

goood
Zeke33
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:07:48 AM

The EPA has to go! It is merely a agency which is promoting Czar Obummer's Greenhouse Rules.
mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:06:53 AM

OK
USMCturtlehead
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:06:18 AM

Okay
CarefulDriver
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 10:02:59 AM

What does this mean "permitting requirements are self-executing".
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