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Sanpoil

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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:40:36 AM

I was recently quoted in an Austin American-Statesman post fact-checking a claim by Roger Williams, a Republican congressman from the Austin area. In a recent newsletter to constituents, Williams claimed that “the liberal anti-free market policies of the Obama administration discourage the exploration of American sources of energy and hinder production and job growth.”

This has been a popular refrain among Republicans because, as Williams correctly pointed out in his July 1 letter, average gasoline prices have increased 86 percent since January 2009 – to $3.51 from $1.89. The reasoning goes something like this: Gas prices have risen, Obama is president, therefore Obama is to blame for the price increase.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 4:07:10 AM

Yea, well that's the false logic of his detractors.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 11:00:13 PM

>>"No, Obama's minions got the price down so he could get elected. You need to keep up with the facts."<<

Really, so you're admitting Obama's minions can control the price of gasoline? Therefore we must conclude that they caused the subsequent price increase after he was elected since they have that power. Interesting, to say the least.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 2:59:59 PM

Obama's trade policies are partly to blame, and the Federalpolicies toward the oil futures markets is also to blame.
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NedW
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 1:06:06 PM

Thank you for submitting this article, Sanpoil.
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GreatWaldoneous
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 8:07:31 AM

When you print money out of thin air to pay for stuff (like wars & socialism), it creates inflation and the price of EVERYTHING goes up...
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ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 6:36:38 AM

What myth?
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bsnort
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 3:26:40 PM

ol' boy needs to go out for a urinalysis...............................
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Dr Gas
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 3:21:29 PM

WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, OH WHY! does it ALWAYS boil down to a fight between Dems and Reps?????

They are BOTH elected officials, elected to do a job of which they can not and will not do unless they vote "along party lines" !!!!!

And point a finger at the other side and tell us, like we don't know and don't know what they are going to say, how bad, wrong, (fill in the blank), the other side is and their side is right!

TIRED, TIRED, TIRED of the whole freaking mess and don't want to hear that crap again!
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 3:02:35 PM

"Persistent Myth of Obama's effectiveness in Anything Positive"

Fixed.
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BurtB
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 1:48:07 PM

If you read the article, it does not address the fact that more oil has only been produced on Private land.

On Public land, which the Obama administration has more control over, less oil, year over year, has been produce for the last 5 years. This is a new trend.

The reasoning by this same guy, under the Bush administration, was the argument he blames Republicans for now.
Republicans are not making the argument this guy attributes to them. "Gas prices have risen, Obama is president, therefore Obama is to blame for the price increase. "
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 12:44:08 PM

Everyone needs someone to hate. If you're simple minded enough, this will do.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 12:43:33 PM

"So Bush got the price of gas down and Obammy got it back up to levels he's more comfortable with."

No, Obama's minions got the price down so he could get elected. You need to keep up with the facts.
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CorvairHaven
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 12:42:31 PM

Not a myth.
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mitt4prez
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 12:22:38 PM

"Unless you are willing to settle for government-imposed wage and price controls, the policies of the government can only impact the economy in minor ways."

Ah. So the 130 pages of California regulations on the blending of gasoline have "minor" impact on CA gasoline prices? Note, too, that CA is one state out of 50, and this doesn't even count the federal imbecilities and thuggery. All "minor." Another Won voter weighs in.

CA gasoline blendings regs:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/082908CaRFG_regs.pdf

130 pages of "minor" impact.
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playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 11:34:10 AM

The price of oil steadily rose & peaked during Bush's time as president, and everything collapsed in his last year. Giving Obama a $65 a barrel starting point instead of the $150 a barrel starting point that was short lived.

My point is that any idiot can twist this into whatever their political agenda is. Presidents don't control the things we want to blame on them. Its how they react to things that happen on their watch that defines them.

[Edited by: playtimeCLE at 7/26/2013 11:35:02 AM EST]
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tcrunner
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 11:28:40 AM

highdesertman has a good point

[Edited by: tcrunner at 7/26/2013 11:29:17 AM EST]
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flatrock14
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 11:22:17 AM

if it goes down he takes the credit if it goes up bush did something
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 11:10:06 AM

the health care bill will be the firecracker that will propel the election of many more democrats into both the house and congress...

it is already working to a majority of folks benefit....

and saving us all money.....

I don't balme obama at all...

I blame the lazy american consumer... they buy the big trucks and gas guzzling cars...

and then gripe that it costs too much to drive them...

begs to ask "Why the heck did you buy them then?"

(one possible answer: too out of shape to get into a smaller vehicle, ie. I need this truck to haul my fat butt around)
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 11:04:30 AM

When Bush was in office ALL the media was reporting the gas prices as if he were responsible for it. If one is responsible, then they are all responsible. Can't have it one way.
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:57:17 AM

If you insist on blaming Obama for higher gas prices, then you also have to give him credit for the improving economy. It's not true in either case. Prices for gas and other commodities have always followed the economy, and the government has very little direct influence on that. Unless you are willing to settle for government-imposed wage and price controls, the policies of the government can only impact the economy in minor ways. And, if you recall, Nixon tried to impose wage and price controls in 1971 and it was a total disaster. So, we have to take the bad with the good and always remember that when it comes to gas prices, "It's the economy, Stupid!"
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:52:37 AM

He said, she said.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:48:14 AM

WonderfulMI and other liberals warp the facts and figures. They cherry pick a time during a 4-month blip in the summer of 2008, go ahead and exaggerate the price as $4.25, and then claim Obama did better. What a joke!

I'll take the 4-month blip anytime over the 5 full continuous years of high gas prices. With Bush, the prices spiked temporarily. With Obama, the prices remained high permanently.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:43:49 AM

From what I remember, when Bush became president, gas prices were much lower than 1.89$/gal and they rose higher than they've been under Obama... Yet I don't remember anyone blaming Bush as much as Republicans are blaming Obama.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:35:22 AM

So Bush got the price of gas down and Obammy got it back up to levels he's more comfortable with.
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bklynse
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:35:15 AM

When the Secretary of Energy says that we need to have prices more in line with Europe....

When the President of the United States deliberately disallows additional drilling...

When the pipeline from Canada is deliberately put on hold - if not killed outright...

There is NO myth to Obama's role... It is real. It is persistent.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:26:34 AM

Inaction is part of the problem
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WonderfulMI
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:25:11 AM

Gas prices were $4.25 just before they plunged down in January 2009. That summer was when the economic meltdown started.

If Obama could tank the economy way down to where it was in 2008, gas prices would be lower. But no, he had to have the stock market reach a new high, and oil production increase more than it has in 20 years.

The Republicans have worked hard to trash the economy. Think where gas prices would be now if they had helped the economy instead.

[Edited by: WonderfulMI at 7/26/2013 10:27:41 AM EST]
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:23:56 AM

But can we name one thing that he has done to lower fuel prices? He started a commision to look into high prices that never reported back. That doesn't count since nothing became of it.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:22:53 AM

Why does the media even bother to print gibberish?
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:21:13 AM

There's some truth in any myth.
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cwashi3324
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:19:29 AM

He's not to blame. Even he has a boss.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:18:05 AM

The President is a mere puppet for his ADVISERS!! They tell him and to say and do at all times. If the President has to veer off the script he is lost and confused!!! He has no plan other than bring our COUNTRY DOWN!
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:01:30 AM

Without Obama the world would be a better place.
But were stuck with him for 3 more years.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 10:00:15 AM

Yeah, but it's all happening under his watch... I blame Obama!
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Sanpoil
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:53:09 AM

Today's price are due to Wall Street Speculators.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:46:13 AM

the man is a menace to america
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:45:25 AM

Have to agree
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:44:53 AM

The problem is "We the People have no control over pricing of gasoline or how the country is run."
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 9:43:57 AM

presidents have little role in anything
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