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kx250
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:00:53 AM

Lithium-ion batteries have come a long way in the past 20 years, and for good reason. Billions have gone into researching how to make these batteries commercially viable. However, li-ion batteries still need a lot of work, and even if they reach their theoretical maximum for energy storage, they still can't compete with octane, according to the Joint Center for Energy Storage Research. For Tesla , this could spell trouble. Battery Chemistry 101
When you break it down, a battery is just a way to store energy. Further, they have three essential elements -- an anode, a cathode, and an electrolyte. The anode and the cathode are electrodes, while the electrolyte -- the stuff in between the anode and cathode -- allows the flow of electrical charge between the electrodes. The idea behind new bat
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HuoXingC
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 8:43:04 PM

*wah wah wah*
Digger52
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 9:45:14 AM

A total waster of money. .
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 7:13:47 AM

get a new onw
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 12:12:15 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 12:07:25 AM

ok
GoneUpAgain
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 12:06:12 AM

What a waste of valuable resources.
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2013 12:03:48 AM

ok
rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:59:16 PM

bluebird1 - "Tesla's too linked to Li-Ion which will likely be replaced with another type & they're not in a good position to diversify.But if forced, I'm sure they'd find a way."

Why should it take any more than buying a different type of battery?

"As for posters like rjhenn, we have those now (a type of hybrid) & just look at how well the Volt has been accepted!!!!"

Most of the hybrids I'm aware of, including the Volt, try to mechanically link the gas and electric drives. What I'm talking about would be a pure electric drive, with a multi-fuel engine optimized for and matched to a generator, whose sole purpose was to recharge batteries. It's only connection to the power train would be through the generator, and it would be optimized to run at a single speed and constant load to drive the generator.
theschmuck
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:57:10 PM

They ran out long ago and I'll not need one anyway, no EV for me.
hpmossii
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:57:00 PM

Keep working on the technology. Maybe eventually it will be more practical/efficient.
nimpy
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:56:10 PM

Electric cars will never make it
JethroGibbsMKE
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:53:51 PM

How many of us can afford to buy a Tesla? I'm just saying!
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:52:36 PM

Keep trying......
us4usa
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:51:50 PM

If it runs out of a charge, just hook a horse to it to pull you home...
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:50:49 PM

very interesting - but stupid
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:48:52 PM

I have no use for a battery vehicle!
NedW
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:47:44 PM

Thank you for submitting this article, kx250.
DEG
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:47:08 PM

Electric Vehicles are not ready for prime time!!!
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:46:43 PM

yes
SkyKing77
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:46:33 PM

Another green failure!
flyfast
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:46:03 PM

WHY IT WILL NOT WORK UNTIL A NEW WAY IS FOUND
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:44:50 PM

Good job MaxCO2
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:44:25 PM

until they make it affordable ...it will be for the privileged
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:41:55 PM

And soo much money
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:40:58 PM

REPEAT!
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:38:48 PM

useless
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:38:15 PM

Right on, MaxCO2
mrbee
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:37:56 PM

Battery cars. Failure.
gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:36:54 PM

If Toyota can figure out Li-air batteries, what would stop Tesla from dong so?

GTH
CCLighthouse
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:33:32 PM

Yea, stick to the gas!
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:26:29 PM

Unavailable for comment
Carol7777
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:26:16 PM

Sounds like there is a lot of research into new & better types of batteries & other energy sources for vehicles. That's okay. We want to encourage innovation. Good luck to these pioneers.
badharley
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:20:34 PM

Stick with gas.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:20:26 PM

ok
ScottTee
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:14:34 PM

Oh my...
KhelbenArunson
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:12:54 PM

Lets hope not.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:11:30 PM

Oops
MaxCO2
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:10:31 PM

If Tesla had to cough up as much money as Boeing did to solve their Li-ion battery problem, they'd be vaporized and gone in a heartbeat. Too bad it hasn't happened.

In my opinion, I don't agree with our government giving our tax dollars to companies that do nothing more than supply a novel toy car to people that have way too much disposable income, i.e., not relevant to the average person, and supply nothing more than R&D to the rest of the industry.
Chris46
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:09:09 PM

Batteries as we know them today can only do so much. And it's not enough.
nomad228
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:08:47 PM

yes,yes they do need a lot of work. : )
billwho
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:06:53 PM

All you wanted to know about batteries and were afraid to ask. Battery 101....
bpj13
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:06:15 PM

Yep
dc1552
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:03:58 PM

I think I saw this earlier in the week....
Lukus
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:03:25 PM

How much has Tesla already put into the batteries? Is it worth it?
rjoeh
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:01:08 PM

As they say... more research is needed and unfortunately... if your not near a charging station when your battery goes flat... your SOL. I'll stay with gasoline or diesel for my power.
walkingtall
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 11:00:35 PM

Is Tesla's battery running out of charge?And they are out to make money.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 10:58:12 PM

A wealthy man's toy , nothing else.
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 10:57:23 PM

REPEAT!
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 10:55:56 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 10:54:26 PM

Ok.
Cuzilla
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 10:52:13 PM

It doesn't matter if the new technology is more costly. The gov't can just dictate what can be used/allowed in cars. They have a say in everything else these sdays.

[Edited by: Cuzilla at 6/28/2013 10:52:59 PM EST]
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