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artstr

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:02:13 PM

In one experiment involving a driving simulator, people sitting in "expansive" seats were more likely to drive recklessly and conduct more "hit and runs" -- compared to people sitting in smaller, more "contractive" seats (see picture below).
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 3:42:50 PM


BennoBlue: I don't care if anyone believes the result of the study or not, nor do I care about anyone's opinion of the Huffington Post or any other news agency. I'm simply tired of seeing examples of people finding a reason to bash something posted here, based on the headline, source, or really anything other than the actual information from the article.

Excellent comment!

This study is very consistent with other ones related to human behavior. People who think they're better than everyone else (with expansive cars or desks) will inevitably act in that manner, the results of which are bad for everyone else.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:09:10 PM

You mean the blank that side-swept my Civic while it was parked was driven by someone sitting in a large seat (and presumably in a large vehicle) a while back? The blank must be "expansive", too!
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abacus44
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 2:03:27 AM

Interesting.
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bvrbill
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:40:16 AM

Interesting. I'm not sure I agree.
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BennoBlue
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:15:43 AM

From the article's last paragraph:
> The study is scheduled to be published in a forthcoming edition
> of Psychological Science. Read the full paper here. < http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/dana_carney/inpress.ErgoDishonesty.PsySci.pdf >

So, based on other comments, I just read the study referenced. The article seems to accurately reflect the information from the study -- that is, this is a news article, reporting on something that's been done in the world, in this case a study. Disagree with the study or not, doesn't matter to me (though I'd be curious to hear anyone's reasons for disagreement reflecting information from the actual study). But, if the article is accurately reflecting the study, then blaming Huffington Post for the results of the study is a childish case of shooting the messenger.

I don't care if anyone believes the result of the study or not, nor do I care about anyone's opinion of the Huffington Post or any other news agency. I'm simply tired of seeing examples of people finding a reason to bash something posted here, based on the headline, source, or really anything other than the actual information from the article.
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:56:31 PM

So the seat shouldn't be too comfortable.
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MrLefty0706
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:55:55 PM

Sample size? How valid is this study?
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drobbbb
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:11:23 PM

not sure about this one
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WalkingWV
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:01:16 PM

You can prove anything with "studies".
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listerone
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 10:29:32 PM

Huffington Post = no credibility.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 8:01:36 PM

Interesting.
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Pramodsharma
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 6:51:01 PM

Big expensive seats small hearts?
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mike56MI
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 6:07:34 PM

OK
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rich13251
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 5:13:12 PM

Blah blah blah
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alex395
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 5:11:00 PM

Last Huffington Post article that had accurate info had something do do about Adam and Eve. Set closer to the wheel and increase you chances of having a concussion when the air bag deploys or getting your knee caught in the wheel.


[Edited by: alex395 at 6/27/2013 5:11:58 PM EST]
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MustangRacing
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 5:02:16 PM

I foresee new federal regulations coming......
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 3:17:13 PM

What a load of bunk um
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Migstern
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 3:09:59 PM

30 page study not an "article".
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doggod
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:57:08 PM

Coming up next: laws telling you what kind of seats you can sit in. In your car, I mean. They've already taken over your bathroom.

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:54:41 PM

*applies for studies job, will do it for half.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:54:13 PM

Makes sense.
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PhilMils
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:51:37 PM

There is nothing surprising at all in the study results.

The "expansive" posture also makes it more difficult to give quick and full control to the vehicle. Also, as the study states, the "expansive" position is one that seems to give people a feeling of power, even if they don't have it. I've seen far too many drivers who can barely reach the steering wheel. That gives them little flexibility in turning it quickly, when needed.

My car seat can be very expansive. For safety reasons, I prefer to drive in the "contractive" position. Driving is a serious undertaking and should be treated as such.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:44:34 PM

Ranks right up there in the upper echelons of whacko pseudo-science.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:29:46 PM

I suspect reckless driving is must more susceptible to moods, concentration, or distractions than seat design...
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 2:24:47 PM

lol interesting
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:55:37 PM

leave it to the huff n puff post for the mundane


[Edited by: humblepie at 6/27/2013 1:57:04 PM EST]
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PedalingPhil
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:54:20 PM

I drive a 1997 Toyota Tacoma and my seats are not the most comfortable. Must be why I have never had a ticket since I can't be aggressive. Also, I dare not take on a bigger vehicle so I just try to stay out of the way on the interstate as those big cars with nice seats fly by me.
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livedream
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:41:50 PM

The study as printed seems very subjective, and is likely very flawed.
Still, it brings up some interesting points about human behavior in moving vehicles.

This would explain a lot of road rage. Sometimes, dominant types exhibit and try to exert their dominance through overly aggressive driving tactics, like extreme tailgating and other reckless driving.
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MOREDLEG
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:33:50 PM

Huff Post has been Huffing again, BS
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:17:20 PM

I'm with gumbyrex - it's not the seat, but the occupant. Somehow I doubt this study can be replicated.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:13:28 PM

go away with that nonsense.
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Dr Gas
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:07:23 PM

OMG - yea, sports cars that ones with the "nice" seats, see the connection, faster car, faster, speed.

Leave it to Huffington to write about nothing!
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Jeff1944
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:03:53 PM

So will someone want to write new laws preventing expansive seats? LOL
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 1:02:41 PM

interesting
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:55:06 PM

Interesting idea
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:54:22 PM

interesting
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:24:30 PM

okay?????!!!!

[Edited by: KMVeneta at 6/27/2013 12:25:14 PM EST]
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gumbyrex
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:19:59 PM

Bottom line, it's not the seats that's the problem... it's the driver in the seat.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:12:59 PM

This article is useless. It gives a single quote from an email as its primary source. No details of the study referenced and just as important no details of who funded the study. Why is funding important? Because over the last 20-30 years (probably longer) there is an understanding that there is a specific finding or set of findings that are expected to be supported by the study because the funder has an agenda that needs support. Just look at funding for global warming studies. Very little grant money goes to someone who is looking to establish the veracity of climate change claims. A lot of money goes to those who want to lay 100% of the blame for the phenomenon on man made sources while no consideration evaluated for any natural activity.

These guys must have very big chairs.

[Edited by: hmw10284 at 6/27/2013 12:14:32 PM EST]
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madison8359
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:07:59 PM

As with most studies of this type and matter, human behavior, there is much debate as to it's validity.

Not sure how this impacts pricing but thanks for the information.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:04:59 PM

So the more comfortable the vehicle the more dangerous the driver. Okay if you say so.

[Edited by: USMCturtlehead at 6/27/2013 12:06:11 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:04:01 PM

my buick is the lap of luxury
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