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SUVFan

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 9:19:23 AM

The Ohio House yesterday approved a bill to ban red-light and speed cameras over the objections of Columbus-area representatives and others who argued that the technology has reduced traffic accidents and saved lives.

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Supporters of the proposed ban on law-enforcement cameras said the legislation would protect Ohio motorists from excessive fines.

“You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. With red-light cameras, you are guilty until proven innocent. ... You are not able to face your accuser because your accuser is a machine,” said Rep. Ron Maag, R-Lebanon.

“Companies that run the cameras have incentive to write as many (tickets) as possible because they get a cut of the proceeds. They’ve taken law enforcement and rigged it for profits.”

Visit The Columbus Dispatch -- By Catherine Candisky for full article
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 3:37:03 PM


Apparently too many voters complained to their elected officials about being scammed by these red-light cameras.
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 9:43:07 AM

Good.
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 8:40:13 AM

Excellent news.

http://www.motorists.org/red-light-cameras/

http://www.motorists.org/speed-cameras/
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Eugenian
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 8:36:52 AM

Excellent news.
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zippy452
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 8:13:53 AM

Excellent.

Cincinnati has one of the worst examples here in a small town called Elmwood Place that helped spawn this bill.
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Zing20
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 1:36:56 AM

Good they cause more accidents instead of preventing them.
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purplebears
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 1:35:45 AM

The revenue loss will be made up with new fees and taxes.
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KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:46:09 AM

Good. Red-light cameras are an obvious money-grab.
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billwho
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:38:34 AM

Thank you mr. mr.pony
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MrPony
All-Star Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:36:42 AM

The cameras ain't for safety but for income!
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SilverFord
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 12:02:54 AM

I hope all states follow and do away with this "big brother" abuse
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:59:49 PM

Camera enforcement would be a good idea if it could be properly administered. Contracting it out to private companies, which retain a substantial portion of each fine levied, leaves the system open to over zealous enforcement and unfair tactics. Good to see it stopped as currently operated.
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cwashi3324
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:59:42 PM

Yessss..!
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bill294
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:58:04 PM

Good lets start a movement to get rid of these things nation wide
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:57:37 PM

Hope Pennsylvania would have the same law.
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pawnkingfour
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:56:36 PM

Glad somebody's thinking right.
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pacecar68
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:56:03 PM

good luck people of ohio. red light cameras are totally bogus!
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gta_guy
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:55:27 PM

Kudos to Ohio!
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Bearcat500
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:55:21 PM

Congrats. The Ohio House did something.
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:54:09 PM


     another jurisdiction beginning to see the light
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clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:53:58 PM

Halfway there. Now the Senate must pass it.

I hope it passes and the money grabbing stops. Also it will stop the wrecks they create.
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GLCSHADOW
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:53:16 PM

Love it...
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lewpuckett
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:53:12 PM

duh
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felixculpa
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:51:44 PM

Red-light scofflaws seem more brazen these days; cameras do deter them. That said, I don't like contracting out their operation. There's far too much privatisation these days. (Reagan/Thatcher economic liberalism, that would be)
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FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:47:34 PM

Common sense.
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tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:46:42 PM

These are the exact reasons I have for not allowing cameras :)
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Mills43
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:46:26 PM

AWESOME!
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OKRifle
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:46:17 PM

Well, good for them!
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abcdMA
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:43:19 PM

It's all about revenue
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DEG
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:42:38 PM

Stupid move!
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midnightsdc
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:41:20 PM

Get rid of them...
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mstearno
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:39:44 PM

I live in Ohio
and personally I'd like to see state troopers numbers rise and grab speeders directly
guess what the fines would still come in and speeds would reduce....
check out 4th of July travel on the interstate and you'll see 5 troopers every 100 miles...
if you speed get a ticket
if you run a red light get a ticket
I don't care if it's an officer or a camera
FOLLOW THE RULES
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BREW9
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:36:41 PM

good start..now all states dump cameras
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pgerassi
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:36:01 PM

Assumption is the mother of all foul-ups.
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badharley
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:35:07 PM

Good for Ohio.
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DiannaFan
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:33:42 PM

Finally somebody is addressing this sham.

There will still be enforcement. Hopefully it will done correctly this time.
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serrog
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:32:16 PM

I guess speeders who kill have rights too
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Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:29:37 PM

Good for Ohio!
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DrLyon
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:28:04 PM

Good..
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car253
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:24:32 PM

Good move.
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SpankyMI
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:24:12 PM

All states should follow Ohio's lead!
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GASCRUSHER79
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:24:11 PM

the length of a yellow and the delay between when the other lights change once the light turns red should be standardized. IF they were always the same we would know how long we have and we'd know if we could make the yellow without interfering with traffic. I've seem some lights where the red and green turn the exact time, which i feel is very dangerous there needs to be a second or 2 delay to allow traffic to pass through. as many just stare at the green light hitting the accelerator not watching for charlie passing through the intersection. That alone would save lives. I no longer wait in the intersection to turn left as many do, because that makes me nervous. I can accelerate fast enough to get through or I'll wait for the next green. Its dangerous to be screwing around in an intersection. I was in an accident so it make me be extra careful at lights. But I also noticed the delay varies between light changes. which made me even more careful.

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KhelbenArunson
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:23:41 PM

good.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:23:16 PM

amen
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P_I_STONE
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:21:05 PM

Unbelievable
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DustyHorse
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:19:42 PM

Finally common sense prevails. These are money making machines. I had my car totaled stopping for a red light at an intersection that has a camera.
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Carol7777
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:16:33 PM

Red light cameras never bothered me. I don't run red lights. I've never encountered a speed camera; that's a horse of a different color.
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thrtyrs
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:16:03 PM

Follow the rules boys and girls!
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FlogNut
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:14:55 PM

I oppose red light cameras because too many towns & cities have changed the timing and shortened the yellow light in order to increase revenue.
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txkrb
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:13:24 PM

"You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. With red-light cameras, you are guilty until proven innocent."
You are assumed innocent until proven guilty, the photo proves you are guilty just like any other evidence

But I do not like the companies getting "commissions" for tickets
The cities etc should buy or rent them with no commissions to the equipment providers
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GASCRUSHER79
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:10:59 PM

umm, well, thats good, i don't find many going through lights thats very dangerous at most intersections. THough If people were smart, I'd say if theres literally NO one in sight and the light is red for no reason, I don't see why we should have to wait for it to change, (we should be able to treat it like a FIRM stop sign (not a stop sign as many roll through them) But many people will use that as a gray area to run lights. Not to say I've never went through a light when there was literally no one around. But its rare. usually lights have sensors to prevent that.
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