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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 4:36:33 AM

Traveling alone in a large car can be as bad for the climate as flying, but driving with three in a small car could have an equally low impact as a train ride," says IIASA's Jens Borken-Kleefeld. A 1000 km trip alone in a big car could emit as much as 250 kg of carbon dioxide (CO2), the researchers calculate, while a train trip or carpooling in a small car could emit as little as 50 kg of CO2 for each traveler.

Air travel has by far the biggest impact on climate per distance traveled, because it can lead to contrails and formation of cirrus clouds that have a strong climate impact, as well as ozone. These mechanisms have a strong effect on the climate, but cause warming over much shorter periods of time than CO2.

The study focused on the short-lived greenhouse gases and aerosols emitted
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porotito
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 5:50:34 PM

Cool!
ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 7:06:40 AM

Who cares.
JagXKR
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 1:17:22 AM

Negligible effect on the earth. Great for the eco terrorists though. BTW if you go back 30 years the eco terrorists said that the earth would be so warm right now that the seas would have risen so much that many coastal cities would be experiencing massive oceanic flooding. Hmmm not yet. Let's put it back a few more decades and then a few more and a few more.....
KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 1:05:21 AM

Ever get on a bus or train and come away wishing the passenger behind, in front of, or next to you had driven alone or in a large car..?
Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:19:15 AM

got to go from point A to point B...
OGW
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:16:47 AM

Ban flying!
rap12MA
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:16:40 AM

Wow! Did not know that air travel had such a huge impact on climate.
jcdakota
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:14:08 AM

Put a big "Green Tax" on the airlines and tax credits for good "Green Travel" .
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:12:34 AM

Now we all need to work at the same place and ride to work together. What Fun.
OGW
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:07:59 AM

Then it is time to ban airplanes and leave the little guy alone!
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:06:36 AM

gotta go where you need to go....
bolobill
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:05:40 AM

ok
mlmeng
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:05:01 AM

Lions, Tigers, and Bears...probably not the best options for transportation. ;-)
esquared
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:04:18 AM

sensical....
N5EXY
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:03:05 AM

Ich bleib unter.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 12:02:05 AM

Enough!
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:58:01 PM

ok
Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:56:58 PM

There is no man made global warming, get over it.
MidNJ
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:56:09 PM

Would love to carpool if I could, but unable to.
DEG
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:55:53 PM

I'm not concerned with carbon footprints. This is a fiction made up by the "chicken little's" to hype up global warming.
OHMS
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:55:11 PM

walk; bike; swim
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:53:39 PM

So many choices; so little time.
VikingWoman
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:53:22 PM

Ok
macike
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:53:01 PM

ok
iFueler
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:51:12 PM


     there are other considerations as well
dbadave
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:51:04 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:50:42 PM

ok
Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:47:33 PM

I would like to see more trains, and a way to transport vehicles and RV's along the way, to cut down travel time, and let us enjoy along the way. More trains and light rail....
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:45:18 PM

From the article...

For people wanting to minimize their climate impact, Borken-Kleefeld says, "Try to avoid flying, driving alone, and driving big cars. Instead, when you can, choose the train, bus, or carpool with 2 to 3 people."

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my comments...

He didn't mention the ultimate goal: avoid breathing.

Let the greenies walk. Let them freeze. Let them go broke. Let them go first.

Green is red.

REKEY
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:38:35 PM

I only go about 350 miles a month. I think that is small!
Prodaddy
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:36:37 PM

I like train or automobile
W707
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:35:49 PM

i'd like a train ride
s6sputnik
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:35:35 PM

Blahblah!
jci25946
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:34:14 PM

More treehugger BS
floridakeys
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:27:38 PM

See the USA in your Chevrolet
DustyHorse
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:26:25 PM

I'm sure trains have the smallest foot print.
jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:26:22 PM

“Really? My "carbon foot print?" "... bad for the climate"? Get real, this is a load of crap.”
“MORE BS”
“Bull”
“The carbon foot print is AL Gore BS.”

I see the far-right weirdos are out in force tonight. These trolls would not recognize a fact if it bit them on the nose. (Said nose well buried in the sand.)

Mowerman08
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:26:09 PM

Bottom line: stay home and pull the covers over your head!
Gassed01
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:25:00 PM

Trains are mainstream in Europe. Too bad they aren't here, but the distances and population density makes trains convenient, efficient and economical.
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:23:38 PM

Nothing new here.
BREW9
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:23:20 PM

ok
troutbum7
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:21:08 PM

Train travel is great they need to service more areas. Driving is sure the way to see the USA though. Hey crooks lower our gas prices so we can drive. Al Gore take your carbon footprint and, well you know.
walkingtall
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:21:03 PM

Planes,trains,or automobiles:Travel choices for a smaller carbon footprint and nothing like driving your own vehicle and seeing the sights!
Rhino8of8
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:20:38 PM

I'll just stay home
pacecar68
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:18:34 PM

nothing like driving your own vehicle and seeing the sights!
HedTurnr
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:17:57 PM

Let's go out in style like the dinosaurs!
altima2008
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:15:38 PM

Study study study equals waste waste waste
TravellinTom
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:14:43 PM

The carbon foot print is AL Gore BS.
mrbee
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:14:30 PM

Bull
flyfast
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:10:59 PM

MORE BS
sawdust1825
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:10:53 PM

Take the train.
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