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walkerms1

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 4:10:06 PM

Volkswagen’s TDI models offer a mix of fuel economy and value, untouched by any other manufacturer. Take, for example, the subject of our road test, a Tennessee-assembled ’13 VW Passat TDI SE with an as-tested price of $26,225, just a $2,280 premium over a similarly equipped gas model. Our SE arrived with a six-speed manual transmission and was well equipped with power windows, doors, and locks; A/C; heated seats; and a decent stereo. The Passat’s interior is trimmed nicely for the price, with soft-touch padding in all the right places, and a generally upscale feel. The price includes an EPA-estimated 31 mpg city and 43 mpg highway, beating the base Passat’s 2.5L gasoline engine by 9 mpg city and 11 mpg highway.
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walkerms1
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 10:40:16 AM

Diesels are more fun to drive!
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WalterMitty
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 10:22:36 AM

I like the VW's and think they make a nice small diesel, but the fact remains that if you use their numbers and assume $4.00/gal, you have to drive it over 70,000 miles to *break even* on the engine price premium.

That's fine, and many people put more than 70,000 miles on their cars in a short period of time, but given VW's timing belt replacement cost can crowd another $1000.00 to $2000.00 if you don't do it yourself, and other potential costs and issues including their build quality and other costly repairs, if you're driving one of these cars it's not for the purpose of saving money.
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orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:25:44 AM

THIS little fact from the article says it all about diesels in the real world:
EPA city/hwy mileage estimates: 31/43 mpg
Observed fuel economy: 43.78 mpg

Since when have you seen ANY car test where the observed overall mileage, even when they are driving it at 75 mph+, up steep grades in 6th gear, and revving the hell of out it just because, EXCEEDS the EPA highway rating???? With a gasoline model, I would have expected a result like 34 overall if the EPA rating was 31/43.

Driven a bit more sensibly, expect a diesel to get at the very least 20-30% better on the highway than the EPA figures...ie, 49 to mid 50s. The EPA test cycle doesn't do justice to the diesel car charm, which is superb highway mileage..no matter what.
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GAC1Shirt
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 9:11:53 AM

Ask your elected officials to lower the tax on diesel to that of gasoline on both state and federal taxes.
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walkerms1
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 11:56:04 PM

I have found my '09 Jetta TDI to be very reliable. It has 80,000miles, and no problems. I hated replacing the timing belt, but that's maintenance.

It costs nothing to go look at cars, so judge the build quality for yourself!!!

Do your homework, and choose what is best for you. But choose! Don't be ignorant of any technology...
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 11:43:43 PM


A shame VW still does not invest in reliability and total quality is missing.
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 10:30:40 PM

A very nice automobile at a relatively affordable price.
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walkerms1
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 6:26:21 PM

Diesel is the answer!
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walkerms1
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 6:25:41 PM

That's a good bunch of options on the base TDI...
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 6:16:44 PM

really a lot of car for the money
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 5:19:20 PM

Excellent
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USMCturtlehead
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 4:43:58 PM

Good deal for VW lovers.
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ceklea
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 4:38:29 PM

The article concludes, "No other car has this mix of size, value, and fuel efficiency for the price."
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