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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 7:58:21 PM

It might be all in the timing.

Much has been written already about Friday’s U.S. State Department environmental assessment on the Keystone XL.

The Canadian media were cautious, focusing on the fact that the report doesn’t guarantee approval by PresidentObama and that the State Department is “anxious” for feedback on it from the public, including the Keystone’s archenemies.

The most revealing thing about that report, though, might be its timing. The State’s environmental assessment is the last in a series of rapid developments that have kept the the Keystone in the news since the start of Obama’s second term.
A former climate adviser to President Bill Clinton recently told the Financial Times he thought President Obama should okay Keystone at the same time as he unveils some new
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 6:15:06 AM

Yep!
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 5:54:34 AM

What?
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 7:13:06 AM

Just a misinterpretation. Hmmmm.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 1:11:03 AM

nsdp: good points.
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 10:36:58 PM

watch and see.
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 10:25:07 PM

This is one that the economics at the point when the line actually gets built determines whether or not it will be profitable or a money pit. The increase in contract refining for export may well kill any hopes of operating Keystone profitably. Today a refinery can buy dilbit and make maybe $12.70/barrel vs $18/barrel refining heavy oil under contract for Mexico, Columbia or Brazil. PDVSA refines its own heavy crude in two PDVSA co=owned refineries. Dilbit will NOT replace Orinoco from Venezuela under current circumstances. Unless Dilbit dropped to about $35/barrel US refineries will not displace sure profits from Maya, Brazilian Orinoco or heavy crude from Columbia to take a chance on the US retail market.

Alyeska took over 10 years from proposal to in service. Using that as a guide we have about another 4 years before pipe will be laid. The electric service in Southern South Dakota and Northern Nebraska won't be ready until 2016. That assumes that safety issues resulting from electric line outages at Wolf Creek, Fort Calhoun and Cooper nuclear plants are resolved to NRC's satisfaction. A double contingency could present serious reliability problems given the isolated areas of Nebraska and South Dakota that the line has sited pump stations. We had an article saying that there was no way NPPD could meet a 2014 in service date and 2015 was difficult at best.

Humble pie, safety seems to be the most serious concern right now. Tell me have you already forgotten about August 14,2003? You don't seem to understand that grid reliability is an issue here as well as the environment.
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 8:34:05 PM

it seems the eco nazi's have the big o's ear
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 7:59:18 PM

The topic is

Why the Keystone saga is hinting at an XL-size bargain with environmentalists
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