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nightshade00013

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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:24:28 PM

As consumers clamor for cars with higher mpg numbers and with rigorous new federal fuel-economy standards on the horizon, carmakers are exploring all their options. This has largely meant improving the gasoline internal combustion engine's efficiency and offering a few hybrid and electric vehicles. Conspicuously absent from many lineups in the U.S., however, have been vehicles with diesel powerplants. And understandably so: The AmeriĀ­can public has been reluctant to embrace diesels ever since General Motors and other automakers sold noisy, dirty, and unreliable versions back in the '80s. But modern diesel systems are clean, powerful, and fuel-efficient.
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DesertRat2011
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 11:04:32 AM

I love my 2002 VW TDI Jetta & my 2012 Ford F-350 diesel :)
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ktyson13
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:39:20 AM

will take a drop in diesel prices to get people to switch.
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YaBassa
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:34:27 AM

Year of the diesel? Only for those that can afford to buy new
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:24:40 AM

Glad to see it. If more diesel cars are sold, refineries will increase their diesel output and there will be more focus on the competitiveness of diesel prices on sites like GasBuddy. Hopefully, that will narrow the margin between diesel fuel and regular gas over time.
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orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:26:41 AM

Diesels work--I have been driving 3 diesel station wagons in a row. New diesels are extremely and unbelievably clean--you would never know from noise, smell, smoke that they were diesels..until you open the filler cap and see it in BIG letters 'diesel fuel only'.

Hybrids work, and have proven themselves. The old fears about non-lasting, non-recyclable expensive battery packs are just that--baseless fears. Even taxi fleets know that a Prius taxi is good for half a million km to a million km of taxi service (300,000-600,000) with extremely low operating costs as far as brakes etc.

Natural gas only looks good right NOW when the price is about $1.00-$2.50 per gasoline gallon equivalent (GGE) However, when natural gas finally goes back to breakeven price, and the retail price for vehicles doubles or even triples, then it won't be a bargain anymore. Besides, everyone hyping CNG conveniently forgets the huge stumbling block--the CONVERSION COST afo about $10,000 per car (currently, factory built CNG pickups have an extra cost of $11,000) and up to $50-60,000 for large buses and large heavy duty trucks, like garbage trucks and transport tractors.
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BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:47:45 AM

Some diesels get better mileage than hybrids
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johnwinger
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 7:28:09 AM

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bicycle1966
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 7:17:28 AM

I like my diesel, and the gas mileage offsets the higher price of diesel. But I still hate paying so much more than gas.
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335d1
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 7:15:56 AM

Go diesel! I love my turbodiesel.
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:47:09 AM

They just locking for more pollution
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molebaby96
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:30:21 AM

Try natural gas please, diesel to high.
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:10:43 AM

I dont have a need for a diesel.
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millerin
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:05:08 AM

great
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Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 5:58:19 AM

Right, then the already high prices will go even higher.
That should help the teamsters/independents deliver the goods at a reasonable price.
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SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:53:05 AM

yes.... already selling and should become quite ppular... even the asian brands are spearheadingteh technology of DIESEL... too long coming.... BUT ... WAIT... what was that??? too much demand and not enough supply of diesel??? OH... that's why the price of diesel is goingup!!!

we will need to see if teh oil companies are in tune with the times...
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:35:34 AM

most americans arnt smart enough
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djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:26:48 AM

The year of the Diesel should really mean that Big Oil is shipping even more overseas and creating a bigger shortage in America so that they can reap even more profit while gouging Americans better.
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Billrusty
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 3:08:39 AM

emulate the best in the busines and everyone benefits
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Cothrom
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 1:51:33 AM

Good article
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mrselfdestruct
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 1:30:15 AM

About time we woke up.
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CityCouponer
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 1:08:39 AM

Why ask why???
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kkimes
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:52:12 AM

We know what VW can do. Let's see how the others work out.
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CivicMA
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:48:21 AM

Maybe. Couldn't hear yourself think in my '79 VW Diesel Rabbit. I would hope they are quieter today and less stink (pollution)! But gas mileage was great, 50mpg back then.

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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:44:40 AM

Maybe.
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cheapchickKY
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:16:53 AM

Not interested.
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1momsunshine
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:15:42 AM

not yet
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amerk73
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:13:17 AM

not yet
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gcalleja
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:12:26 AM

I like the new diesel cars.
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mia3bxs
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:04:32 AM

Diesel might be an alternative for saving fuel. Problem is that maintenance is expensive.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:03:06 AM

cough...gag...cough....hack..gak....humph...cag...
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:51:46 PM


Fat Chance at $4 to $4.69 per gallon in NH right now!

This writer is delusional or on the payroll of VW and its pust to sell more diesel powered cars in the U.S. It is the only edge that VW has to grow sales as their reliability record and poor build quality continues to plague them.

Diesel fuel is still not truly clean, it is merely 'low sulfur' now. It continues to spew a very unhealthy level of particulates that causes millions of cases of both asthma and lung cancer in the U.S. Ck with your local American Lung Association office for the truth.
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azjetmek
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:51:17 PM

I Agree with Andy1024

[Edited by: azjetmek at 2/20/2013 11:52:27 PM EST]
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:35:04 PM

Diesel prices offset its fuel efficiency.
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