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Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,016 Points:1,188,800 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 12:16:32 AM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse As a junior energy explorer comes closer to finding out whether North America’s next big shale oil find lies beneath the western coast of Newfoundland, concerns are being raised about the environmental effects fracking could have in the remote region. Shoal Point Energy Ltd. spent the winter holidays hammering out a farmout deal with Black Spruce Exploration, a subsidiary of Foothills Capital Corp., that will enable as many as 12 exploration wells to be drilled over the next few years in the Green Point shale. After that, the companies aim to have a better idea of how much black gold can be coaxed out the narrow stretch of rock — and hopefully attract deeper pocketed investors to help scale up the discovery. Tapping the Green Point will require hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, t Visit Financial Post for full article

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As a junior energy explorer comes closer to finding out whether North America’s next big shale oil find lies beneath the western coast of Newfoundland, concerns are being raised about the environmental effects fracking could have in the remote region.

Shoal Point Energy Ltd. spent the winter holidays hammering out a farmout deal with Black Spruce Exploration, a subsidiary of Foothills Capital Corp., that will enable as many as 12 exploration wells to be drilled over the next few years in the Green Point shale.

After that, the companies aim to have a better idea of how much black gold can be coaxed out the narrow stretch of rock — and hopefully attract deeper pocketed investors to help scale up the discovery.

Tapping the Green Point will require hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, t
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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 6:58:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse continuation of destruction of some of the last great environments in a quest for more fuel.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,945 Points:752,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:22:34 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse AND THE WITCH HUNTS CONTINUE: Regulation of oil and gas activity should remain squarely under individual state supervision. There is no reason the Feds should be involved in issues the states have already stringently set. All the information is available at the site www.fracfocus.org. As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.". They'll continue to chant the thoroughly debunked claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda. No disclosure of fracturing fluid?? WRONG again... Just take at look around the site www.fracfocus.org, it's ALL right there for the world to see. And the latest from the purveyors of fear? Insurance!!! Aha, this will be the nail in the trackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co. So now it's water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed. You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction. The most common claim talking point is that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever. As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater." The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX. The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown by 50%. Oh and the "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process. How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up. It is important to rely on facts and the science, not fear-mongering talking points. The shale gas and oil boom is the result of U.S. business innovation and risk-taking. If we let the fear of undocumented pollution kill this boom, we will deserve our fate as a second-class industrial power.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:144,460 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:25:04 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse solar anyone???
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:144,460 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:00:40 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse come on people... at what cost energy???
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,205,480 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:25:07 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I would hate to see your magnificent land despoiled by Oil Tar. Your health and environment are paramount!
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,963 Points:2,117,390 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 6:17:29 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse So, a few mistakes are now cause for alarm EVERYWHERE? Let em pay the high price if they don't want it...
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,095 Points:1,623,180 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 10:58:39 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse Sympathies and condolences to the wonderful folks of the Newfie Province. Please watch these buzzards very carefully! Your incredible land is at risk.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,074 Points:1,448,325 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 5:48:03 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse When it's fracking, there is much to fear -- especially the lies and deceptions surrounding the chemicals they use.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,226 Points:2,371,370 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:50:33 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse isnt that like american cub scouts ?
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,904 Points:1,826,360 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 11:34:10 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse Do it safely.
EnviroChemist All-Star Author Oklahoma Posts:724 Points:209,860 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 8:56:37 AM Ignore EnviroChemist Report Abuse I hope they find the right balance they are looking for.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,220 Points:872,375 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:53:39 AM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse The quest for shale oil and profits.
METEOR49 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,172 Points:455,225 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:30:01 AM Ignore METEOR49 Report Abuse we don't need more oil , we have an oversupply of crude and it's not helpng at the pump.
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prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,955 Points:1,674,175 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:18:15 AM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse Oh boy. Very narroe margin for screw ups.
tbgasmizer Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,053 Points:1,230,620 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:18:02 AM Ignore tbgasmizer Report Abuse Newfoundland needs a break,they have nithing and get nothing from the government.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,354 Points:1,802,790 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:17:03 AM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse 23 billion barrels is a lot of oil. Hard to believe there is that much in the formation in Newfoundland.
StephenOM Champion Author Ocala Posts:2,598 Points:1,297,470 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:11:38 AM Ignore StephenOM Report Abuse Apparently disinformation and fear mongering is not limited to the US. Hopefully Canadians are not so gullible as Americans....hopefully. [Edited by: StephenOM at 2/19/2013 7:12:34 AM EST]
RichWLIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,096 Points:638,865 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:08:49 AM Ignore RichWLIN Report Abuse The sky is falling!
Point__man Champion Author Raleigh Posts:4,335 Points:877,695 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:08:42 AM Ignore Point__man Report Abuse You think the prices of seafood are high now ;) Let them make any mistakes at all with this project and many will no longer be able to afford fish at the market and possibly not even a fish sandwich at their local junk food drive through ;) Very dangerous if problems arise. Plenty of sea water to pump in. What to do with the waste ? What to do about the leaks into the sea floor above where they are extracting ? If there are leaks, those sea currents will distribute them quickly through the Northern Atlantic destroying much more than North America's waters.
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rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:5,591 Points:1,493,015 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:07:23 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse Ressearch of this nature can show whatever you want it to show.
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tekguy All-Star Author Pittsburgh Posts:682 Points:1,105,045 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:05:14 AM Ignore tekguy Report Abuse More research is needed before moving forward.
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silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,480 Points:1,230,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:03:46 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse I feel sorry for those people, i hope they can buy good water some where there.
GDAE Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,150 Points:220,900 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 7:00:37 AM Ignore GDAE Report Abuse "Frack away and be just like the government of the United States, all fracked up." Ha ha!
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VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,739 Points:2,028,480 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:53:29 AM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse A lot of us are concerned about the long-term effects. [Edited by: VetteFan at 2/19/2013 6:53:48 AM EST]
plbell627 Champion Author Dayton Posts:5,143 Points:1,202,280 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:52:37 AM Ignore plbell627 Report Abuse We need the oil so keep looking. Hopefully that will help us not having to buy from OPEC.
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