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LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:00:02 AM

State regulators say at least 84,000 gallons of water contaminated with oil and chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing spilled from a broken well-head in a field about 4 miles north of Windsor.

A mechanical failure at about 9:30 a.m. Monday sent a smelly stream of steaming, greenish fluid onto soil and required fire trucks testing air every 30 minutes to ensure leaking natural gas was not about to explode and the use of a vacuum truck to try to suck up the liquid, state natural resources spokesman Todd Hartman said.

The flow from the well bore was stopped more than 30 hours later.

PDC crews dug trenches around the spill and hired Wild Well Control to plug the well, but not before natural gas leaked, Windsor-Severance Fire Rescue operations chief Mike Blackwill said. "We weren't going
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:23:24 PM

LOL, I'd give up too Cakes, holding a losing hand gets old. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.

The truth is surely starting to set you free!!!
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 5:16:49 PM


I am not going to mess with you any longer. Not worth it! My time is too valuable to deal with someone who will not or can not read. I feel sorry for you.

Your truth is only what you can cherry pick, out of context. I doubt you have ever read this or the rest of the citations in their total.
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:12:39 PM

LMAO, first Cakes says ""your Doctor cannot legally even get that information."

When asked for a citation, get this, Cakes posts links to several editorials and stories. But the one I like the best is "Mama Jones"! ROFLMAO! There even Jones proves Cakes wrong! Jones says and I quote "doctors in Pennsylvania can access information about chemicals used in natural gas extraction", now how or where does that say doctors cannot legally get the information??? Cakes, this is a classic example of how realizing...

The truth shall set you free!!!
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:30:48 AM


http://truth-out.org/news/item/9004-silencing-communities-how-the-fracking-industry-keeps-its-secrets

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/energy/article/Fracking-formulas-still-secret-4246634.php

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/03/fracking-doctors-gag-pennsylvania

http://www.publicopiniononline.com/opinion/ci_20260557/po-editorial-fracking-gag-order-places-doctors-ethical

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/local/courier_times_news/is-fracking-law-a-gag-or-guarantee/article_b82033e2-29da-5310-acee-83bce89eab6c.html?mode=jqm

LOL!
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:58:34 PM

drill baby drill -- right??? buffoons!!
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:54:25 PM

LOL, you're the one that said medical personnel Cakes!

And no, there are a great many smart folks posting here, they are the ones that speak the truth as well. They have realized that the truth shall set them free! You really should use some prudence in your searches for information, then you would find that all medical personnel, including the doctors you claim are not, have complete AND legal access to the information. Maybe you should find a citation that shows that "your Doctor cannot legally even get that information." I'd love to see that one!

The truth SHALL set you free!!!
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:20:56 PM



My Gawd Pop! Don't you know the difference between Emergency Personnel, generally EMT's, and Doctors. Do your homework..try Google or Bing to get your truth straight. Until then hold your tongue!

Do you think everyone is stupid Jose?
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 12:46:20 AM

LOL, now Cakes thinks doctors are not medical personnel!

In one breath you admit the fact that the information, by law, MUST be released to doctors, then in the next breath you claim doctors can only get the information illegally. My, my, what a tangled web you weave...

The truth, and only the truth, shall set you free!!!
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 12:30:40 AM


You see Pop, FracFocus is only as good or complete as Big Oil makes it. To believe that it is all encompassing of all fracking chemicals is incredibly naive'. We sooo believe each and every word from Big Oil's mouth!

The Right to Know Act is overseen by the EPA. We also know that they have not done a stellar job of preventing fracking chemical issues.

"under law, that information must be released to response and medical personnel in case of an emergency." Yes, but think of this.

You have been poisoned by a fracking chemical release in your town, you are on the way to the hospital by ambulance. Now how long will it take your hospital to get the chemical composition of those fracking chemical from Big Oil so you can be treated??? It gets better....Courtesy of big Oil your Doctor cannot legally even get that information. What do you do...die?

Oh, wait, your family can sue Big Oil.

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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 11:50:03 AM

PDQBlues "Maybe it's time that the American people are truthfully told all chemicals used in fracking. Full disclosure is long overdue."
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Not sure what you want PDQ, since all ingredients used in hydraulic fracturing are and have been available to the public.

You see, none of the additives used in the fracturing process are hidden from public view. This is because operators are bound by law in the Community Right-to-Know Act that was passed in 1986. The law mandates that detailed product information sheets be drawn up, updated, and made immediately available to first-response and emergency personnel in case of an accident on-site.

And on top of that the U.S. Department of Energy and the Ground Water Protection Council created FracFocus.org. This is a publicly accessible nationwide database with specific well-by-well information on the additives used in the fracturing process.

Now there are some rare cases where proprietary information is not listed by percentage amounts but even then, under law, that information must be released to response and medical personnel in case of an emergency. emergency or not, companies still disclose the general name of the constituent in question, its common industrial uses, and even the volumes at which it is being deployed.
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:26:40 AM

Ewwww
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 10:35:43 PM


Thanks all for your great comments!
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:33:50 PM


Maybe it's time that the American people are truthfully told all chemicals used in fracking. Full disclosure is long overdue.
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sciotosix
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:44:43 PM

They'll pass the cost of clean-up to the consumer.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:35:54 PM

this will cost them some real dollars before its all over
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:21:49 PM

Had their hands full
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dr047
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 10:13:50 AM


Keep this up and we will have a site reporting fresh water prices.
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USMCturtlehead
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:54:12 AM

The bad side of getting at the resources we so badly need to survive. Hope things like this can be controled bbetter on future drillings.
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:53:09 AM

This is one of the main reasons why people don't want fracking done in their neigborhoods!
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SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:51:51 AM

again... where are the fracking design and safety teams and of course theindependent inspection teams??? sure just wait till a disaster occurs, and they react...
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:29:33 AM

that's the frackin you get for the frackin you got............
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musicreporter
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 2:07:17 AM

bad
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coughlin
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:57:02 AM

No fracking except with clean water.
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kkimes
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:32:43 AM

I hate to say 'I told you so', but.....
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granitestater
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:16:46 AM

Every now and then there's a well blowout. Nature cannot always be contained by the artifices of man.
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billbillON
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:05:34 AM

wow
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jorod55
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:55:24 AM

And this creates jobs?
At what cost... to us?
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LostInNY
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:47:12 AM

And it begins
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VikingWoman
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:46:21 AM

Benzene and toluene are nasty chemicals.
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:46:04 AM


52 spills over the course of only one year from this driller in Colorado. Incompetence converted intl criminal negligence.

Get your haywire GPS fixed El Gato N..., wrong state!

Great comments CdnLynx!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:43:52 AM

That will happen.
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hpmossii
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:41:38 AM

I love the oil production and the economic impact from increased industry drilling for it but we cannot contaminate our water supply. I fear these incidents will be more frequent as fracking increases.
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:41:10 AM

Oh no!
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bikechuck
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:40:55 AM

Clean it up.
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:40:47 AM

Interesting!!!
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AnObserver
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:37:32 AM

More study must be made and stricter controls in place before our headlong rush to shale oil
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heartbroken2010
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:36:22 AM

fracking will be dangerous.
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roadrunnin
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:33:17 AM

and of course, fracking is safe.
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El_Gato_Negro
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:30:38 AM

4 miles north of Windsor is Detroit.
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RQCraig
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:28:55 AM

These accidents are the unfortunate cost of business. The key is for the industry to learn from and not repeat them.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:28:52 AM

this will cost them more than few bux
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Tigercat88
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:26:44 AM

Accident that may have been preventable.
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gasbud4
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:26:32 AM

If I lived 1500 feet from a fracking wastewater well, I'd move. If that wastewater gets into the house, what are you going to do? The house would probably be declared unsafe due to the health hazard.
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:26:26 AM

At some time this "garbage" will come out.
History repeats itself.
Keep out water clean. We need water to drink, not put into the ground.

Numberous rivers and lakes across country have lower levels than 70 years ago. Where Mexico had rivers, they have dry river beds.

Keep our water above ground and clean!
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:25:31 AM

old news
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wang91554
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:25:31 AM

who's going to pay for that?
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boatmen
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:25:10 AM

Fracking is to dangerous to water resource that we need to live
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WIWalt
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:24:52 AM

Go ahead polute all our water we will just have to drink beer
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:23:03 AM

Ban fracking.
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Bigwaynef
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:22:59 AM

They don't need to screw up when they are fracking around out there...
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