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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:14:05 AM

PITTSBURGH — The oil and gas industry is trying to ease environmental concerns by developing nontoxic fluids for the drilling process known as fracking, but it’s not clear whether the new product will be widely embraced by drilling companies.

Houston-based energy giant Halliburton Inc. has developed a product called CleanStim, which uses only food-industry ingredients. Other companies have developed nontoxic fluids as well.
“Halliburton is in the business to provide solutions to our customers,” said production manager Nicholas Gardiner. “Those solutions have to include ways to reduce the safety or environmental concerns that the public might have.”
Environmental groups say they welcome the development but still have questions.
The chemicals in fracking fluids aren’t the only environm
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 8:26:16 PM

Unfortunately NOTHING is non-toxic. Even plain old water.
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FuelishGuy
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:41:33 PM

If it pans out this should be a game changer.
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Eugenian
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:02:52 PM

Pumping toxins into the water table = insanity. At the very least, 100% non-toxicity of all fracking fluids should be a legal prerequisite for all fracking permits.
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:00:07 PM

The use of nontoxic drilling adatives during the hydraulic fracturing operation makes sense and one would hope that this becomes the industry standard operating procedure.
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vjs3
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:42:01 PM

Hmm... Still not sure about fracking.
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Point__man
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:57:56 AM

Saw a similar announcement a few years ago and they said it was cost prohibitive to use; what has changed ? Price of oil high enough now to make some consider using it ? Why is it so costly ? Is Halliburton or the actual patent holder holding out for a bundle ? Or maybe it is the threat of litigation against current operations that makes it so scary that producers will spend more for it ;)

Maybe Halliburton will make deals and sell it at costs :)
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:27:04 AM

LOL, they could use unicorn meal and fairy dust and the anti-frackers would still protest!
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YaBassa
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:04:32 AM

Halliburton is as trustworthy as GWBush Dick Cheney or Faux News...
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greatartiste
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 10:59:57 AM

fracking is still bad....
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merlinCO
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 10:44:21 AM

Still requires 3 million gallons of water per hole.
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SUNOIL
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 8:05:03 AM

Pump the ground full of it
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txequitygas
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 8:01:00 AM

good! works for me!
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Wally3023
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:55:50 AM

About time
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Piper0072
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:28:19 AM

The anti-frackers will still be anti-fracking and New York State will commission a high cost study that will take another four years.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:20:19 AM

FINE!
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leeac
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:09:30 AM

Big Oil wouldn't lie, would they?
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:57:35 AM

AWESOME!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:54:33 AM

Why didn't they have this earlier
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:46:40 AM

one more positive for shale
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:40:57 AM

Good news for Americans bad news for Tree huggers who will have less to complain about.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:16:52 AM

The lawyers will block this.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:20:28 AM

That's nice. But the science doesn't any problems with the fluids being used now.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:53:59 AM

good
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StanleyCup
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:44:03 AM

That placard marked UN1268 is Petroleum distillates, n.o.s. (Naphtha, or Mineral Spirits).
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pricewar
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:37:23 AM

Alway a problem, and when money is involved, they will find an all around solution.
They just have to bite the bullet and except the fact it will cost money... A way of life,... a way of business
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:24:05 AM

A natural response to public concerns about how they conduct their business - no government intervention is necessary.
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MN1
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:40:41 AM

I'll believe it when I see Halliburton execs drink it.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:24:27 AM

Good, now lets move on.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:04:08 AM

Okay, so here we have an open admission that the current fracking fliuds are toxic.

Won't trust dick around me with a long arm, why trust his evil seed halliburton?
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:59:09 AM

Having seen the devastating effects of fracking in PA I don't wish them to use it anywhere no matter what fluid they use!
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:58:03 AM

Agree with KnoxGasPriceSpy.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:51:34 AM

OK
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:50:38 AM

The had the non toxic fluids all along, just not cost effective.
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mrreferee
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:49:43 AM

I still believe that there is structual damage made with fracking, alon with all the eco-system violations..
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DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:48:22 AM

So if they are using "food-industry ingredients"; what will this do to the price of food?
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molebaby96
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:48:03 AM

So it was toxiic before this change.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:47:20 AM

nontoxic sounds better, but i still prefer DHAN..
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:46:31 AM

Its a start, but the bottom line is, this all cost Big Oil more money. Using toxic chemicals is cheaper. Now if we could get away from using fresh water and use ocean water, sure it would cost more too.
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Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:44:28 AM

Well this is a step in the right direction!
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:43:42 AM

Sounds good!
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:42:54 AM

Improving the process.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:40:52 AM

Took them long enough to get to this point. Hope it works.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:40:20 AM

Halliburton?
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:39:56 AM

Sounds good!
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:35:40 AM

About Fracking time...
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defiancegasman
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:35:37 AM

Best NEWS I've heard in a long time, as long as it isn't too costly!!!
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rosyLI
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:34:40 AM

We've been fracking since 1947 without incident.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:34:35 AM

I don't know about this. I don't like fracking too much at this stage.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:34:07 AM

I can only see this as good news.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:34:06 AM

Sounds good.
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