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xgojim All-Star Author Michigan Posts:514 Points:448,020 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:12:54 PM Ignore xgojim Report Abuse A vast, untapped oil reserve in California is emerging as perhaps one of the state’s best opportunities to improve its still struggling economy, but exploration and production efforts face resistance from the powerful environmental lobby and Gov. Jerry Brown’s administration, which appears not fully sold on the potential. The roughly 1,700 square-mile Monterey Shale, from the state’s central coast to its San Joaquin Valley, holds roughly 60 percent of the country’s estimated shale oil reserves, potentially making California the country’s top oil producer and revving up its economy like a smaller shale-oil deposit did for North Dakota. California’s economy has been showing signs of improvement after a downward slide for years – in part the result of myriad regulations, multi-billion dollar Visit Fox News for full article

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A vast, untapped oil reserve in California is emerging as perhaps one of the state’s best opportunities to improve its still struggling economy, but exploration and production efforts face resistance from the powerful environmental lobby and Gov. Jerry Brown’s administration, which appears not fully sold on the potential. The roughly 1,700 square-mile Monterey Shale, from the state’s central coast to its San Joaquin Valley, holds roughly 60 percent of the country’s estimated shale oil reserves, potentially making California the country’s top oil producer and revving up its economy like a smaller shale-oil deposit did for North Dakota. California’s economy has been showing signs of improvement after a downward slide for years – in part the result of myriad regulations, multi-billion dollar
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orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,821 Points:730,015 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:52:13 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse "still struggling" There you go again, Fox 'News'. CA finances have gone into the black--quite a remarkable turnaround, in THIS economic time as well, for a Democratic admin after years of a Republican governator and huge financial problems. It comes down to this: CA has a perpetual motion machine in agriculture, and a shortage of water anyway. Would the short term financial gain of fracking using lots of water be worth the even possible risk of contaminating water aquifers needed for forever money earning agriculture? This sort of question is MUCH more pertinent in California than in many other places. From a Californian perspective, and the first hand hard wired knowledge of everyone in the south California weather and climate zone exactly how much of a problem fossil fuels really are (even though they adore their cars) it would be a hard sell compared to clean non-polluting/no emission technology, even if there is a bit of resentment about the cost of going green.
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,236 Points:1,356,470 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:34:52 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse It may take forever, but sooner or later it will be worth the cost. And we will end up paying all those costs, for sure.
mitt4prez Champion Author Tacoma Posts:1,727 Points:1,242,150 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:20:28 AM Ignore mitt4prez Report Abuse CA has an mandate that 33% of electricity come from "renwable" i.e. graft for Greenies sources within the next 20 years. Moonbeam will stomp brown power flat in The Won (II) doesn't beat him to it.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,083 Points:868,005 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:22:11 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse The eco left will fight oppose everything.
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:1,920 Points:270,240 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:14:25 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse Having lived. In cali, I had to move because of the slow economy and strict EPA. The California coast is beautiful and it is sacred. If anything is going to happen, Gov. Moonbeam (Jerry Brown), will fight to defeat any possibilities of extracting oil from the coast, Even if it does increase jobs and revenue to the state. Because of the strict EPA standards, It would bring high costs to anyone who will try. With 60% of the countries estimated shale oil reserves, I am sure Obama and his administration will be stepping in on this issue big time
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,093 Points:819,320 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:12:16 AM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse It will never happen. Brown and the rest of environmental whacko DemocRATs will never permit it.
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,497 Points:1,355,960 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:50:34 AM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse Of course!
TXRanger09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,494 Points:888,210 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:05:29 AM Ignore TXRanger09 Report Abuse I scrolled down this post and found no one from the great state of California posting the local scoop on this topic. I want to read from the the "sandals on the ground" there.
lesabreAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,681 Points:409,530 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:01:31 AM Ignore lesabreAZ Report Abuse Frak them, start sideways drilling from AZ, NOW!
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,032 Points:788,580 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:44:52 AM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse From the article: "drilling the formation “could slash California's imports while adding billions of dollars a year to the local economy and to the shaky state budget, along with lots of good jobs." =========================================================== In a state where fuel is close to the $5 per gallon mark, one might think that the citizens would be clamoring for more good paying jobs. But you have to respect state sovereignty and allow them to ruin . . . uh, I mean "run" their state as the citizens see fit. As the exodus of taxpayers continues from the People's Republic of California, they will be left alone in their paradise (along with the illegal aliens) and will provide evidence for the other states as to which course to follow. Just don't look to the rest of US for a bailout, please! .
dh0770 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,978 Points:671,485 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:39:42 AM Ignore dh0770 Report Abuse Well of course the eco-crats are opposed!
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,401 Points:1,092,195 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:23:39 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse The eco-terrorists are always going to be opposed to anything progressive.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,500 Points:1,665,585 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:23:22 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I'll believe when it happens.
JCI46009IN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,129 Points:439,570 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:21:59 AM Ignore JCI46009IN Report Abuse Here come the tree huggers
1momsunshine Champion Author Ottawa Posts:5,475 Points:997,555 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:04:34 AM Ignore 1momsunshine Report Abuse ok
veemotors All-Star Author Alberta Posts:692 Points:65,545 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:41:19 PM Ignore veemotors Report Abuse ok
jl1rp Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,791 Points:353,070 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:40:46 PM Ignore jl1rp Report Abuse It will take years of fighting by oil company to get it if at all.
Zing20 All-Star Author Fresno Posts:692 Points:168,355 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:35:58 PM Ignore Zing20 Report Abuse Start the fracking
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,342 Points:1,593,455 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:17:59 PM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Given the property of shale, it will be a very short run.
fedupMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,933 Points:569,455 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:46:08 PM Ignore fedupMN Report Abuse They need to so something to get out from under all that debt.
makerofrules Sophomore Author South Bend Posts:210 Points:42,025 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:23:30 PM Ignore makerofrules Report Abuse I don't care I don't live there, glad of that, they start fracking and the whole state could disappear !!! I don't think the tree huggers will let them frack or mine it ...
davenles Champion Author Texas Posts:3,176 Points:714,660 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:14:04 PM Ignore davenles Report Abuse Don't see it happening.
investmentdr Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,003 Points:1,450,825 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:16:54 PM Ignore investmentdr Report Abuse Shale oil is everywhere
Lugi1967 Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,768 Points:998,245 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:08:11 PM Ignore Lugi1967 Report Abuse They should get in the ball game and do it for the good of the USA
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,157 Points:354,355 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:35:35 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse Perhaps California can demonstrate leadership by restraining big oil fracking and just say no to this potential pollution of the planet.
MKAnudo Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:213 Points:167,600 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:24:50 PM Ignore MKAnudo Report Abuse Fracking near the San Andreas fault...hmmmm. Any other suggestions?
AlgaeNOW Champion Author Wyoming Posts:1,012 Points:312,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:20:47 PM Ignore AlgaeNOW Report Abuse k
knutzAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,248 Points:372,680 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:44:40 PM Ignore knutzAL Report Abuse too many tree hugginh left coasters. will not happen.
YaBassa Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,410 Points:513,100 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:20:05 PM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse Typical Faux News spin
molebaby96 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:2,118 Points:501,805 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:00:27 PM Ignore molebaby96 Report Abuse They strange.
HorizonChaser Champion Author Montgomery Posts:1,963 Points:451,810 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:58:24 PM Ignore HorizonChaser Report Abuse Of course the tree-hugging hippies are opposed. They're nuts.
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,134 Points:1,086,855 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:56:22 PM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse Eco terrorists are in great abundance in California, too bad as the state really needs smart sensible leaders who can tell the greenies where to go.
BigRedVTX All-Star Author Georgia Posts:850 Points:499,055 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:50:42 PM Ignore BigRedVTX Report Abuse Of course the enviros are opposed.
Rockyguitar Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,552 Points:1,198,995 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:48:21 PM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Kalifornia vill say nyet!
Zuegma All-Star Author Nova Scotia Posts:966 Points:253,885 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:37:23 PM Ignore Zuegma Report Abuse Is oil still allowed in California?
DrGasPain Veteran Author Dallas Posts:362 Points:455,200 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:28:30 PM Ignore DrGasPain Report Abuse My bet is that it will never be developed, at least in our lifetime. Calif. will certainly prefer to go broke vs developing (or in environmentalist speak, exploit) its resources. Why don't we just bail them out instead.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,055 Points:2,367,370 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:27:43 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse most californians arnt smert enough
mastermariner Champion Author Texas Posts:4,236 Points:490,310 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:16:50 PM Ignore mastermariner Report Abuse For get about the prune pickers will not allow that
xgojim All-Star Author Michigan Posts:514 Points:448,020 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:14:24 PM Ignore xgojim Report Abuse Californians do not get it.