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xgojim
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:12:54 PM

A vast, untapped oil reserve in California is emerging as perhaps one of the state’s best opportunities to improve its still struggling economy, but exploration and production efforts face resistance from the powerful environmental lobby and Gov. Jerry Brown’s administration, which appears not fully sold on the potential. The roughly 1,700 square-mile Monterey Shale, from the state’s central coast to its San Joaquin Valley, holds roughly 60 percent of the country’s estimated shale oil reserves, potentially making California the country’s top oil producer and revving up its economy like a smaller shale-oil deposit did for North Dakota. California’s economy has been showing signs of improvement after a downward slide for years – in part the result of myriad regulations, multi-billion dollar
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orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:52:13 AM

"still struggling" There you go again, Fox 'News'.

CA finances have gone into the black--quite a remarkable turnaround, in THIS economic time as well, for a Democratic admin after years of a Republican governator and huge financial problems.

It comes down to this: CA has a perpetual motion machine in agriculture, and a shortage of water anyway. Would the short term financial gain of fracking using lots of water be worth the even possible risk of contaminating water aquifers needed for forever money earning agriculture? This sort of question is MUCH more pertinent in California than in many other places.

From a Californian perspective, and the first hand hard wired knowledge of everyone in the south California weather and climate zone exactly how much of a problem fossil fuels really are (even though they adore their cars) it would be a hard sell compared to clean non-polluting/no emission technology, even if there is a bit of resentment about the cost of going green.
StArrow68
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:34:52 AM

It may take forever, but sooner or later it will be worth the cost. And we will end up paying all those costs, for sure.
mitt4prez
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:20:28 AM

CA has an mandate that 33% of electricity come from "renwable" i.e. graft for Greenies sources within the next 20 years. Moonbeam will stomp brown power flat in The Won (II) doesn't beat him to it.
doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:22:11 AM

The eco left will fight oppose everything.
pricewar
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:14:25 AM

Having lived. In cali, I had to move because of the slow economy and strict EPA.
The California coast is beautiful and it is sacred. If anything is going to happen, Gov.
Moonbeam (Jerry Brown), will fight to defeat any possibilities of extracting oil from the coast,
Even if it does increase jobs and revenue to the state. Because of the strict EPA standards,
It would bring high costs to anyone who will try. With 60% of the countries estimated shale oil
reserves, I am sure Obama and his administration will be stepping in on this issue big time
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:12:16 AM

It will never happen. Brown and the rest of environmental whacko DemocRATs will never permit it.
Bussman
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:50:34 AM

Of course!
TXRanger09
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:05:29 AM

I scrolled down this post and found no one from the great state of California posting the local scoop on this topic. I want to read from the the "sandals on the ground" there.
lesabreAZ
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:01:31 AM

Frak them, start sideways drilling from AZ, NOW!
SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:44:52 AM

From the article: "drilling the formation “could slash California's imports while adding billions of dollars a year to the local economy and to the shaky state budget, along with lots of good jobs."

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In a state where fuel is close to the $5 per gallon mark, one might think that the citizens would be clamoring for more good paying jobs. But you have to respect state sovereignty and allow them to ruin . . . uh, I mean "run" their state as the citizens see fit. As the exodus of taxpayers continues from the People's Republic of California, they will be left alone in their paradise (along with the illegal aliens) and will provide evidence for the other states as to which course to follow.

Just don't look to the rest of US for a bailout, please!

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dh0770
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:39:42 AM

Well of course the eco-crats are opposed!
JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:23:39 AM

The eco-terrorists are always going to be opposed to anything progressive.
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:23:22 AM

I'll believe when it happens.
JCI46009IN
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:21:59 AM

Here come the tree huggers
1momsunshine
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:04:34 AM

ok
veemotors
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:41:19 PM

ok
jl1rp
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:40:46 PM

It will take years of fighting by oil company to get it if at all.
Zing20
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:35:58 PM

Start the fracking
TomT2Lee
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:17:59 PM

Given the property of shale, it will be a very short run.
fedupMN
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:46:08 PM

They need to so something to get out from under all that debt.
makerofrules
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:23:30 PM

I don't care I don't live there, glad of that, they start fracking and the whole state could disappear !!! I don't think the tree huggers will let them frack or mine it ...
davenles
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:14:04 PM

Don't see it happening.
investmentdr
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:16:54 PM

Shale oil is everywhere
Lugi1967
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:08:11 PM

They should get in the ball game and do it for the good of the USA
evowner
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:35:35 PM

Perhaps California can demonstrate leadership by restraining big oil fracking and just say no to this potential pollution of the planet.
MKAnudo
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:24:50 PM

Fracking near the San Andreas fault...hmmmm. Any other suggestions?
AlgaeNOW
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:20:47 PM

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knutzAL
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:44:40 PM

too many tree hugginh left coasters. will not happen.
YaBassa
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:20:05 PM

Typical Faux News spin
molebaby96
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:00:27 PM

They strange.
HorizonChaser
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:58:24 PM

Of course the tree-hugging hippies are opposed. They're nuts.
JagXKR
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:56:22 PM

Eco terrorists are in great abundance in California, too bad as the state really needs smart sensible leaders who can tell the greenies where to go.
BigRedVTX
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:50:42 PM

Of course the enviros are opposed.
Rockyguitar
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:48:21 PM

Kalifornia vill say nyet!
Zuegma
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:37:23 PM

Is oil still allowed in California?
DrGasPain
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:28:30 PM

My bet is that it will never be developed, at least in our lifetime. Calif. will certainly prefer to go broke vs developing (or in environmentalist speak, exploit) its resources. Why don't we just bail them out instead.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:27:43 PM

most californians arnt smert enough
mastermariner
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:16:50 PM

For get about the prune pickers will not allow that
xgojim
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:14:24 PM

Californians do not get it.
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