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LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:23:52 AM

On the heels of our blog post last week, showing how competitive wind and solar power have become in recent years, is news of possibly the cheapest solar deal yet in the U.S. (that we know of publicly, at least). Even more interesting is the fact that the deal was made between Texas-based El Paso Electric and First Solar, an Arizona-based solar manufacturer. While it’s a little sad that a Texas-based company has to go to New Mexico to build solar, it’s at least heartening that they could partner with a U.S. company to get the project done. First Solar has been one of the leading solar manufacturers for several years, and last year their suite of projects made them the #2 solar panel supplier in the world (up from #4.)

Marty Howell, the City of El Paso’s Director of Economic Development
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 12:06:57 AM


Thanks all for your great comments!
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:49:14 PM


Solar power production makes a lot of sense (and cents) in the South Wes. Lots of sun all year, just waiting to be tapped.
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Ahking
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:13:23 AM

good. maybe energy prices will now go down.
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:31:11 AM

Anyone who accepts as fact any economic figures posted in an Environmental Defense Fund article needs to put in a bid on some beach front property we have for sale in Arizona. It is also amazing that the extent that taxpayer supplied subsidies not available to other forms of electricity production have in reducing the cost of the projects solar electricity production. All this article really says is that with enough free taxpayer subsidies, gold can be sold for the same price per pound as corn.
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:20:33 AM


Bar1035 and Van_Halen....And how did you boys figure that this is a BLOG post...please enlighten me...it is a reprint from the Environmental Defense Fund.

Are you PO'd because I have called you out before?



[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 2/10/2013 12:24:38 AM EST]
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:54:19 PM

good
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:43:36 PM

Solar power should be cheaper everywhere.
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:27:34 PM

I guess it all depends on what the government decides to subsidize with tax payer money. I wonder if they have thought of converting coal generation to natural gas and actually saving some money!
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YaBassa
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:53:01 PM

Need to build a lot more of these in the US
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knutzAL
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:47:39 PM

yup....with subsudies it will always be so.
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EnviroChemist
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:46:28 PM

Good for El Paso!
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:15:23 PM

Actually Vandamme... he said he'd support it.... when it exists..... sounds like common sense and not really buying the baloney..... But still giving them a chance to clean up their act....
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 4:40:22 PM

It's cleaner too.
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Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:39:56 PM

b/c solar panel is not that expense anymore...
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:08:22 PM


Thank goodness for one more major milestone being hit for solar energy in the USA! The steady technology advancements for clean renewable energy have resulted in hitting this new and very competitive price point. Like all technology advances, the prices keep dropping. How many of you now have a 50" or larger flat screen HDTV in your home now? How many have two??

Will surprises never cease. V..H.. can count to three!
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bullfrog42
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:47:26 PM

Solar power is green and cheaper to use.Go Texas
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vandamme
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:31:53 PM

"Clean coal" is an oxymoron. So is Obama, for supporting it.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:28:47 PM

BTW Vanny.... land where most solar panel projects are located is actually extremely cheap...



[Edited by: Gnusman53 at 2/9/2013 2:30:29 PM EST]
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:26:42 PM

Actually peachy... solar works on any daylight..... it is just the amount generated is related to the amount of sunlight....

People in Seattle and Canada are using solar arrays to charge their EVs.... and have been doing it for years....

Yet they don't have as much sunlight as El Paso or Hawaii....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:22:32 PM

Ahhhh Che Listerone keeps fantasizing.......

He forgets Obama has publicly said he supports clean coal.

Only problem is ....... coal companies have been marketing something that does not exist...

So coalies need to tell the industry to actually clean up their act.... now.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:19:11 PM

humblepie.... buffalo chips as a source of power.... that means the Congress GOP caucus is the ultimate mother lode
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:17:18 PM

Van Halen... the oil companies are tax subsidized and protected.... so the point was what exactly???
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:16:05 PM

Darn Bar.....after you guys keep lowering the bar -- so to speak -- with clips from every tom, dick and blog.......like Townhall and world nutball daily...etc... especially the fake news blog
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:13:52 PM

Yep... those darn drivers with their agendas.... (grin)
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qwerty17
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:18:49 PM

whew! all kinds of agenda going on within this posting.
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:13:02 PM

Now, are they charging electric cars.

[Edited by: fuel2use at 2/9/2013 1:14:15 PM EST]
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CrackedLCD
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:06:21 PM

What does this have to do with gas prices?
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 12:15:14 PM

Well well well. the blog critic cakes posts a blog .

Anything to push a point - even if it breaks the rules he accuses others of breaking
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:31:29 AM

why not use buffalo chips for power, solar is far from perfect
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:29:41 AM

There was a blogger who love Solar Energy
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MrDeath666
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:18:25 AM

This fairy tale should have started with "Once upon a time".
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FortVancouver01
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:44:01 AM

Beats coal in the PNW too. We need many alternatives for national security though.
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Seamus4513
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:33:39 AM

Nothing unique about El Paso in this regard
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GingoutMD
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:31:02 AM

If it works for them and they can afford it, then go for it. The more we can reduce the use of coal the better.
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Pramodsharma
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:20:29 AM

Solar power should come free, sunlight is free and government has not taxed it so far!
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skempton
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:13:03 AM

How many acres did it take?
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:10:27 AM

Going in th right direction
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listerone
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:09:01 AM

Osama Obama's declared war on coal....he's *on record* as promising to bankrupt the coal industry.This country is the Saudi Arabia of coal...we have hundredes of years of reserves yet our Community Organizer-In-Chief doesn't want it touched.Wind and solar may have a valid place in our energy policy...but SO DOES COAL...and oil...and gas...and hydroelectric.
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:06:53 AM

They should be cheaper.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:06:15 AM

get out!!! Really???

Someday El Paso may see clear skies again....

like when the desperadoes used to ride thru....
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yardslave
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:06:01 AM

Bring it on...
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Skunk63
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:04:59 AM

If it's so great go build it without the massive subsidy like every other industry.
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TripleHs
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:03:01 AM

should be, right?
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bills299
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:47:37 AM

ok!
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Peachy1
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:43:57 AM

That may work in El Paso, but how does this work on days like yesterday, today and probably the next several days for places like the Northeast, getting the blizzard they are getting?
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