drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 9:24:52 PM
LOL, Cakes is looking for even more information?
Well, let's continue with a few more facts about the huge amounts of hazardous wastes created by the solar panel production industry, aka Big Solar:
Newer Big Solar companies are sending hazardous waste out of their plants because they have not yet invested in on-site treatment equipment, which would allow them to recycle some waste.
The waste issue is most evident in California, where regulations approved in the 1970s required industrial plants like solar panel makers to report the amount of hazardous materials they produce, and where they send it.
My source, the Associated Press, compiled a list of 41 solar makers in the state, which included the top companies based on market data, and startups. In response to AP records request, the California Department of Toxic Substances Control provided data that showed 17 of them reported waste, while the remaining did not. One must wonder what the other 24 companies are hiding! Are they lobbying for exemptions under the current laws???
The same level of data does not exist at the federal level! Perhaps we need stronger federal regulation??
The state records show the 17 companies, which had 44 manufacturing facilities in California, produced 46.5 million pounds of sludge and contaminated water from 2007 through the first half of 2011. They took about 97 percent of this toxic cocktail to hazardous waste facilities throughout the state, but more than 1.4 million pounds were transported to nine other states: Arkansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Rhode Island, Nevada, Washington, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona.
Several solar energy experts have noted they have not calculated the industry's total waste and were surprised at what the records showed.
Solyndra, the now-defunct solar company that received $535 million in guaranteed federal loans, reported producing about 12.5 million pounds of this hazardous waste, a chemical cocktail, much of it carcinogenic cadmium-contaminated water, which was sent to waste facilities from 2007 through mid-2011. What is keeping this horrific amount of waste out of our water tables???
And there you have it Cakes!
The truth shall set you free!
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 8:53:46 PM
Pop...how many solar panels were and are declared waste product? What are the metrics of panels declared waste? Where are the locations for Solar Panel waste? What does HUGE (waste problem) mean? Where are these waste facilities located?
Are we currently counting the carbon footprint of the thousands of water and waste hauling Diesel trucks to an average fracking well? Citations Jose?
[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 2/10/2013 8:56:17 PM EST]
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 8:37:35 PM
What's not to like PDQBlues? Well, there's the dirty side of solar that no one wants to talk about! Why the fear and why do they hide it?
Solar panels are creating a huge hazardous waste problem. Fueled partly by billions in government incentives, the industry is creating millions of solar panels each year and, in the process, millions of pounds of polluted sludge and contaminated water.
Now, To dispose of the material, the companies must transport it by truck or rail far from their own plants to waste facilities hundreds and, in some cases, thousands of miles away.
The fossil fuels used to transport that waste, experts say, is not typically considered in calculating solar's carbon footprint, giving scientists and consumers who use the measurement to gauge a product's impact on global warming the impression that solar is cleaner than it is.
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:47:02 PM
What's not to like about solar?
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Ahking
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:20:01 AM
the lighter side of news.
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goldrose1
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:14:31 AM
sure
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:17:28 AM
maybe
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jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:17:15 AM
so?
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:14:37 AM
Good for you Highdesertman...few have figured it out!
Thanks all for your comments!
[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 2/10/2013 12:15:15 AM EST]
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:24:44 PM
One more affair coming out of the closet. Dr. Chu at least was never in bed with Enron, Big Oil executives, or Wall St. financiers as were many of the prior administration. You know, what his name. The ranters and denial whiners, few that they may be here, all have selective amnesia or an alternate history for that crews' constant dalliances with their favorite corporations, industry, and offshore financial instritutions!
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bwatchingu
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:46:01 PM
Outgoing Chu
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:38:31 PM
And here I thought the story about the wind turbine affair was true. It sounded reasonable.
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:43:01 PM
Just one of many that wants gas at $5 or more.
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dodsworth
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:29:03 PM
Intelligence and a sense of humor. Good.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:30:22 AM
Wish they would take their roles seriously
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:28:53 AM
him and his brother ah, both suck
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MrDeath666
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:19:58 AM
Yes we know there are morons in our current administration.
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:31:52 AM
At least Chu figured out what the Onion is, unlike the Chinese and North Koreans who have taken the articles as serious news.
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:28:11 AM
I won't be satisfied until every inch of scenic America is covered with beautiful solar panels and stunningly gorgeous wind turbines.
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Pramodsharma
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:21:52 AM
He loves only to himself.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:10:15 AM
now we need to get production here in the USA ramped up...
Us panels are still almost 2 times as much as china panels even with import tariffs...
Us panel makers must lower production costs quickly....
or .. americans will just be installers of panels much like Best Buy or HH Gregg installs Tv's...
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yardslave
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:07:23 AM
Might say he was truly engaged....
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bills299
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:48:31 AM
Wow!
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deputydog082
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:19:56 AM
good for him
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