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teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,132 Points:1,387,790 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:53:37 AM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse The Harper government's disaster planning has not kept pace with proposals to greatly expand oilsands exports from B.C. ports using supertankers, Canada's environment commissioner said Tuesday. Scott Vaughan said in a report that the number of tanker trips from the West Coast will increase to 2,400 a year from 600 in 2010 because of increased exports of natural gas and oilsands crude via proposed pipelines to B.C. from Alberta. And the tankers needed to ship that petroleum will have "significantly greater" capacity than the vessels that dock in B.C. ports today. But Vaughan said the government only has management plans, training and equipment for oil spills of up to 10,000 tonnes. That's a vastly smaller spill than the potential spill from the supertankers expected to come to B.C., s Visit vancouversun.com for full article

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The Harper government's disaster planning has not kept pace with proposals to greatly expand oilsands exports from B.C. ports using supertankers, Canada's environment commissioner said Tuesday.

Scott Vaughan said in a report that the number of tanker trips from the West Coast will increase to 2,400 a year from 600 in 2010 because of increased exports of natural gas and oilsands crude via proposed pipelines to B.C. from Alberta. And the tankers needed to ship that petroleum will have "significantly greater" capacity than the vessels that dock in B.C. ports today.

But Vaughan said the government only has management plans, training and equipment for oil spills of up to 10,000 tonnes. That's a vastly smaller spill than the potential spill from the supertankers expected to come to B.C., s
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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,609 Points:1,207,330 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:32:26 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Well said endymion. Humble often speaks without the all essential brain connection!
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,084 Points:1,450,275 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:44:24 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Thank you, endymion, for your common sense and logic. There are people who follow the Ostrich Effect. That is, they bury their heads and hide from the truth, then claim if they don't see it, it doesn't exist.
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:843 Points:174,630 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:26:21 PM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Humble pie is wrong - there are lots of tank mishaps all over the world. You just don't hear about them in Toledo. Think more before talking. Disaster plans need to be prepared for the worst - remember the World Trade Center, Hurricane Katrina, and Hurricane Sandy?
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,304 Points:2,373,320 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:02:40 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse other then the exxon valdez and its drunk capitan, i cant think of any other super tanker mishaps ever
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,860 Points:736,940 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:10:20 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse Much of the west coast of BC is just not the best place in the world to have heavy traffic in large oil supertankers. Where there are existing deepwater locations and infrastructure, there are lots of tricky passages to weave in and out of. There are better places but they have their drawbacks too. The lure of the west coast of Canada makes sense in a way--Asia just over there saying 'shut up and take my money', and closeness--as the crow flies-- to the oil patch in Canada. But, crossing the Rockies and the other mountain ranges with oil pipelines has its own drawbacks. A better overall plan for Canada in the long term is shipping crude oil east to replace expensive imported crude in large existing refineries, through existing pipelines and infrastructure such as the railways (suitably tweaked). This would have the effect of a huge shot in the arm for consumers and industry to lower energy costs 20% or so, and crude oil can still be exported on much safer shipping routes, through the ports of Montreal, Quebec City, and the excellent deep water ports and facilities in Saint John NB and Halifax NS.
WEB0153 All-Star Author Maryland Posts:809 Points:157,975 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:45:27 AM Ignore WEB0153 Report Abuse Back to the drawing board!
Wally3023 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,041 Points:542,150 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:28:49 AM Ignore Wally3023 Report Abuse Then they need to go back to the drawing board.
farmboyTN Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,272 Points:451,260 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:56:54 AM Ignore farmboyTN Report Abuse We have done proved that before.
Buckeyee Champion Author Maine Posts:4,616 Points:901,575 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:37:00 AM Ignore Buckeyee Report Abuse The US has had experience in large oil spills.
eyegotgas2 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,111 Points:259,130 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:17:18 AM Ignore eyegotgas2 Report Abuse Risk and reward I suppose.
Snowball2013 All-Star Author Yakima Posts:548 Points:119,000 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:06:38 AM Ignore Snowball2013 Report Abuse Ok
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,870 Points:1,358,700 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:58:04 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse We need the exports and jobs.