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teafortwo

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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:53:37 AM

The Harper government's disaster planning has not kept pace with proposals to greatly expand oilsands exports from B.C. ports using supertankers, Canada's environment commissioner said Tuesday.

Scott Vaughan said in a report that the number of tanker trips from the West Coast will increase to 2,400 a year from 600 in 2010 because of increased exports of natural gas and oilsands crude via proposed pipelines to B.C. from Alberta. And the tankers needed to ship that petroleum will have "significantly greater" capacity than the vessels that dock in B.C. ports today.

But Vaughan said the government only has management plans, training and equipment for oil spills of up to 10,000 tonnes. That's a vastly smaller spill than the potential spill from the supertankers expected to come to B.C., s
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:32:26 AM


Well said endymion. Humble often speaks without the all essential brain connection!
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:44:24 PM


Thank you, endymion, for your common sense and logic. There are people who follow the Ostrich Effect. That is, they bury their heads and hide from the truth, then claim if they don't see it, it doesn't exist.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:26:21 PM

Humble pie is wrong - there are lots of tank mishaps all over the world. You just don't hear about them in Toledo. Think more before talking.

Disaster plans need to be prepared for the worst - remember the World Trade Center, Hurricane Katrina, and Hurricane Sandy?
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:02:40 AM

other then the exxon valdez and its drunk capitan, i cant think
of any other super tanker mishaps ever
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orphancarguyPE
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:10:20 AM

Much of the west coast of BC is just not the best place in the world to have heavy traffic in large oil supertankers. Where there are existing deepwater locations and infrastructure, there are lots of tricky passages to weave in and out of. There are better places but they have their drawbacks too.

The lure of the west coast of Canada makes sense in a way--Asia just over there saying 'shut up and take my money', and closeness--as the crow flies-- to the oil patch in Canada. But, crossing the Rockies and the other mountain ranges with oil pipelines has its own drawbacks.

A better overall plan for Canada in the long term is shipping crude oil east to replace expensive imported crude in large existing refineries, through existing pipelines and infrastructure such as the railways (suitably tweaked). This would have the effect of a huge shot in the arm for consumers and industry to lower energy costs 20% or so, and crude oil can still be exported on much safer shipping routes, through the ports of Montreal, Quebec City, and the excellent deep water ports and facilities in Saint John NB and Halifax NS.

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WEB0153
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:45:27 AM

Back to the drawing board!
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Wally3023
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:28:49 AM

Then they need to go back to the drawing board.
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farmboyTN
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 6:56:54 AM

We have done proved that before.
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Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:37:00 AM

The US has had experience in large oil spills.
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:17:18 AM

Risk and reward I suppose.
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Snowball2013
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:06:38 AM

Ok
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comprof
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:58:04 AM

We need the exports and jobs.
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