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BurntOrange Champion Author Austin Posts:8,743 Points:1,585,940 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:22:10 AM Ignore BurntOrange Report Abuse Those searching for answers to China's chronic smog should consider this: Coal consumption in the world's second-largest economy is nearly on par with the rest of the world combined. That's according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, which released data Tuesday showing Chinese coal usage growing 9% in 2011 to 325 million tons. That means Chinese coal demand accounts for 47% of global consumption. The world's fastest-growing major economy relies on the cheap fossil fuel to supply 70% of its energy generation. But China is paying a massive environmental price for using so much coal, the leading source of greenhouse gas emissions. It now contains seven of the 10 worst cities in the world for air pollution, and experts say the hazardous smog is costing the country billions ... Visit LA Times for full article

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Those searching for answers to China's chronic smog should consider this: Coal consumption in the world's second-largest economy is nearly on par with the rest of the world combined.

That's according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, which released data Tuesday showing Chinese coal usage growing 9% in 2011 to 325 million tons. That means Chinese coal demand accounts for 47% of global consumption.

The world's fastest-growing major economy relies on the cheap fossil fuel to supply 70% of its energy generation. But China is paying a massive environmental price for using so much coal, the leading source of greenhouse gas emissions. It now contains seven of the 10 worst cities in the world for air pollution, and experts say the hazardous smog is costing the country billions ...
Visit LA Times for full article

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heydano67 Champion Author California Posts:1,681 Points:360,460 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:34:44 AM Ignore heydano67 Report Abuse Don't we have some to spare.
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:848 Points:175,605 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:28:45 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Seven of the Ten worse cities for air pollution...not to mention 8 of the 10 worst lakes for water pollution. they wanted jobs and economic growth and encouraged manufacturing by eliminating environmental regulations. this is the result. Fracking fans take note!
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,978 Points:2,120,315 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 6:52:29 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Ok...
dave27johnson Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,790 Points:411,010 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:28:44 AM Ignore dave27johnson Report Abuse And has pollution to show for it.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,113 Points:1,625,315 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:13:26 AM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse You are a real joke teenie. Is it true you are the alter ego of docp???
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,113 Points:1,625,315 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:11:59 AM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse The Chinese Plan to control population! I understand the Koch Bros. are moving to China, where COAL is number 1.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,570 Points:1,790,500 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:55:15 PM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Yes, no wonder the air pollution in Beijing is absolutely disgusting.
BigTruc All-Star Author Memphis Posts:966 Points:783,345 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:47:41 PM Ignore BigTruc Report Abuse Have you seen the smog problem now in Beijing?
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,568 Points:1,174,430 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:38:33 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Could this be one reason why there is so much air pollution in China?
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,362 Points:1,599,705 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:04:36 PM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Sounds a lot like the US in the not to distant past.
Tommyguns45 Sophomore Author Illinois Posts:220 Points:135,440 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 5:36:32 PM Ignore Tommyguns45 Report Abuse And the world expects us to pay for clean air. Im sure they dont have scrubbers on their stacks as required in the US
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,333 Points:2,374,295 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 5:32:07 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse smert to use all sources of fuel
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,370 Points:1,246,350 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 3:55:10 PM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse And that's why you can taste the air in Beijing.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,500 Points:1,560,450 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 1:54:23 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse That is an awful lot of coal.
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,878 Points:365,055 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 1:43:34 PM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse "Yet the environmentalists don't care, they just want to eradicate coal here in the US." - teenitup Oh, really??? How about some facts to back up that ridiculous claim? Citations, please.
YumaFellow Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,300 Points:624,545 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:56:01 PM Ignore YumaFellow Report Abuse That is partly why the pollution is so bad in Chinese cities. It is a question how long the population will put up with it.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,120,375 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:38:56 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse yikes.
teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,679 Points:252,860 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:32:13 PM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse Yet the environmentalists don't care, they just want to eradicate coal here in the US. Isn't global warming global anymore?
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,497 Points:734,555 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:16:11 PM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Wow.
peakkeller Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,696 Points:779,075 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:14:34 AM Ignore peakkeller Report Abuse Ugh
highdesertman Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,494 Points:1,720,030 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:55:50 AM Ignore highdesertman Report Abuse After seeing a story on the severe pollution in Beijing on the news last night, it's evident that China's heavy coal usage and lack of pollution controls is killing it's people, not to mention contributing significantly to global warming. Sooner or later, it's going to hurt them economically too because people will not want to do business there. Maybe then they'll get the message that something has to be done, and soon.
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,855 Points:644,455 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:55:24 AM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . But the EPA has to shutdown cheap electricity in this country that already has emissions lowering devices on our power plants! By the way, CO2 is NOT and NEVER will be a greenhouse gas!
jeffbone Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,366 Points:401,810 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:37:50 AM Ignore jeffbone Report Abuse Right. So when are the greenies going to get excited about greenhouse gasses in China?
BobBG All-Star Author Albany Posts:822 Points:812,950 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:37:47 AM Ignore BobBG Report Abuse Their contribution to green house gases is hurting us too.
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,016 Points:745,525 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:27:17 AM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse If they would use the pollution control that is being forced in the US, it would cut down on the pollution the rest of us have to put up with.
gasmeup52 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,340 Points:685,630 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:15:29 AM Ignore gasmeup52 Report Abuse I don't doubt it.
MrDeath666 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,631 Points:247,115 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:11:02 AM Ignore MrDeath666 Report Abuse And we will keep sending them coal. That helps our import/export status.
Buckeyee Champion Author Maine Posts:4,621 Points:902,550 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:06:53 AM Ignore Buckeyee Report Abuse This is why China does not have cap & trade, or why it does not belong to any pollution agreement.
briinnc Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,705 Points:834,820 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:06:27 AM Ignore briinnc Report Abuse They deserve to choke.
RONALD777 Champion Author Houston Posts:2,452 Points:366,655 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:58:28 AM Ignore RONALD777 Report Abuse Too bad they don't have a little pollution control to go with it.
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:11,665 Points:1,789,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:49:26 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse And they also are a solar power manufacturer. And their capital has the filthiest air in the world.
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,195 Points:1,120,565 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:48:32 AM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse When half the country has a lung disease, they'll wish they hadn't.
mastermariner Champion Author Texas Posts:4,268 Points:496,650 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:46:28 AM Ignore mastermariner Report Abuse That comes with progress when you dont have cleaner energy sources
stefanwaggoner All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:562 Points:151,315 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:35:22 AM Ignore stefanwaggoner Report Abuse China will use every last drop in the next 10 years
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,017 Points:1,744,760 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:29:34 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse and they are choking to death on it!! Bejing had a "stay inside' warning all day today... it will likely keep the alert for the rest of the week
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,254 Points:1,687,900 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:26:18 AM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse We should sell some to them!