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DoctorV

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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:12:25 PM

Valero Energy Corp. (VLO) is considering using barges and rail to move Canadian oil to the Gulf Coast as the government weighs approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, the most economic option, Valero President Joe Gorder said.

Valero could increase the amount of Canadian crude it moves by barge to its St. Charles refinery in Louisiana from Hartford, Illinois, a delivery point on an existing TransCanada Corp. (TRP) line, Gorder said. Valero also owns heated rail cars and could use them to send Canadian bitumen to Louisiana and Texas.

Crude production in Canada is outpacing takeaway capacity, creating a glut in Alberta that depressed prices to a record low last month against Mexico’s Maya crude, the heavy oil benchmark used on the Gulf Coast...

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MAC48
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:36:00 PM

It would be much better economically, environmentally and safer for one and all to ship heavy Canadian crude oil by pipeline. If pipeline capacity is not increased for both crude oil and refined oil products, other means of transportation will be used as long as there is a demand any where in the world that economically justifies the transportation costs.

The environmental groups would be very smart to insure that safe high quality well maintained pipelines are built to alleviate the pipeline capacity shortage as opposed to the use of trains, barges and trucks for the same shipments.
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ss70
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:03:00 AM

using the barges would be good .
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Yooperheart
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 6:33:38 AM

Use the choo-choo.
Skip the boat, mississippi is a mud pit anyway.
Last thing New Orleans needs is more oil spills.
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 6:22:24 AM

Barges... down the Mississippi right now isnt a good thing with the drought lingering on.
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hokieburgh
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 5:12:57 AM

again...could be a nice boost for the rail industry
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:22:01 AM

Canadian crude is being discounted and these vulture refineries are charging just like they are paying full price for the crude oil. Gougers.
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:12:01 AM


Any and every way possible to get Alberta tar sands bitumen out of Canada and over to China. We all know what happens with desperation plans like this one from Valero, with a notorious safety record, or that of Nexen!
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:59:33 PM

With the news of the barge spill being recent on "Old Man River", many folks will begin to look more favorably towards the KXL. Pipelines have a better safety record for transporting crude oil, but I wish Valero great success in their efforts.
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amerk73
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:55:12 PM

good for them
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DrGasPain
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:37:00 PM

The Keystone XL would be much more efficient, safer and environmentally friendly.
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Zing20
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:50:49 PM

Good
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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:06:12 PM

Way to go why wait?
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MINIWINI598
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:59:47 PM

interesting
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:46:25 PM

would be very wise, considering the

xl probably wont be built in our lifetime
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Wanda127
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:40:58 PM

Maybe it will work until something is done about the pipeline or maybe in addition too the pipeline.
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Lugi1967
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:22:54 PM

ok
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Lugi1967
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:22:40 PM

Free enterprise
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:06:30 PM

Ok.
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