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pilotmass Champion Author Boston Posts:1,971 Points:530,310 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:13:14 PM Ignore pilotmass Report Abuse First of all, if the American sold Chevrolet Cruze Eco-D uses the same diesel engine (or a similar engine) to what is used in other markets in the Holden Cruze, this super efficient model will be powered by a 2.0L 4-cylinder turbo diesel. In Australia, this engine offers 161 horsepower and 266lb-ft of torque so if it carries over those specifications; the Eco-D will easily be the most powerful option in the Cruze lineup. More importantly, this output would make the Cruze diesel quite a bit more powerful than the popular Volkswagen Jetta TDI that offers “only” 140 horsepower and 236lb-ft of torque Visit Torque News for full article

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First of all, if the American sold Chevrolet Cruze Eco-D uses the same diesel engine (or a similar engine) to what is used in other markets in the Holden Cruze, this super efficient model will be powered by a 2.0L 4-cylinder turbo diesel. In Australia, this engine offers 161 horsepower and 266lb-ft of torque so if it carries over those specifications; the Eco-D will easily be the most powerful option in the Cruze lineup. More importantly, this output would make the Cruze diesel quite a bit more powerful than the popular Volkswagen Jetta TDI that offers “only” 140 horsepower and 236lb-ft of torque
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ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,944 Points:1,897,200 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:00:59 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse hope they are not going to charge high premium for that .
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,909 Points:759,155 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:38:22 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse More powerful that the VW TDI? That power is just not needed, and it ruins the fuel mileage. I know, because I drive both a 1.9L turbodiesel VW (older--fantastic mileage) and a 2.0L turbodiesel VW, both wagons. The new one has so much torque you can spin the tires on dry pavement, but I stopped being excited about that when I was about 21. That extra torque comes at an awful price in fuel economy--a good 20-25% less all the time. Where it matters, driving along the highway with a full load, both pass smartly, and can go any legal or illegal speed you can try. (I know the old one can cruise comfortably and effortlessly at 100 mph, or 160 kph, all day long) In most markets, VW also offers the new 1.6L turbodiesel as well as the 2.0L for their big cars. The new 1.6L has more horsepower and torque than my old tech 1.9L, with the same sort of mpg or even better than the old style 1.9L. 105hp/184ft pds torque/top speed 118 mph/0-60 11.9 seconds and in the BlueMotion version with stop/start and electric recuperation/start assist (like the new Buicks) it gets 48 city 58.8 highway and 54.7 overall, in US mpg terms. As I said, a lot faster and more powerful than my old wagon, less powerful than the new wagon, and beats both in mileage. 54.7 imagine that--that is what the British Jetta SportsWagon gets, manual or automatic, and it exceeds the US 2025 figure! If Chev was smart, they would come in with a smaller and more economical engine. Because a diesel performs on torque at low RPMs rather than gasoline on horsepower at high RPMs, in everyday use the lower hp diesel would outperform a higher hp gasoline engine where it counts--merging onto a superhighway, or passing on a 2 lane highway. As it is, I don't think I'd be interested. Smaller engine = instant bragging rights to likely the most fuel efficient non-hybrid on the market, and possibly even surpassing the 2025 figure 12 years ahead of the time limit. Larger engine--no REAL game changer.
Goatroper Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,690 Points:1,312,410 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:59:39 AM Ignore Goatroper Report Abuse I hope it's got bullet proof glass if it's in Chicago. More Americans are being killed in Chicago than in Afghanistan. How's that strict gun control working out for you Rahm?
car253 Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,430 Points:1,495,345 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:27:40 AM Ignore car253 Report Abuse Cost will determine the success of this car.
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,524 Points:786,745 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 7:07:09 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse Go diesel!
millerin Champion Author Orlando Posts:2,332 Points:487,315 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 5:06:29 AM Ignore millerin Report Abuse Can't wait
rcornel All-Star Author San Diego Posts:804 Points:250,495 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:20:59 AM Ignore rcornel Report Abuse That's good.
leeac Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,736 Points:461,605 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:18:06 AM Ignore leeac Report Abuse What many consumers want is an inexpensive car that gets great gas economy.
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,590 Points:837,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:28:57 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse good
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,173 Points:728,630 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:04:09 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse K
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,462 Points:681,180 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:29:39 PM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse interesting how Government Motors gets to introduce a diesel so fast and most of the other auto makers have had diesel engines but EPA or who ever won't let them produce them here.
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:7,379 Points:1,860,855 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:45:09 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse bring it on
Straitliner Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,645 Points:265,975 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 5:44:26 PM Ignore Straitliner Report Abuse Yeah, who wants a diesel?
turboz2012 All-Star Author Charleston Posts:754 Points:399,510 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 4:28:25 PM Ignore turboz2012 Report Abuse And it will probably cost $3000 more for the diesel.
bluetruck54 Champion Author Quad Cities Posts:1,588 Points:463,660 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 4:18:34 PM Ignore bluetruck54 Report Abuse and why would I want a diesel that costs me $.65/gal MORE than the gas version????? the better mileage comes up far short when you look at the cost calculation.
LostInNY Champion Author New York Posts:1,859 Points:675,520 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 4:18:03 PM Ignore LostInNY Report Abuse too little too late...who buys based on torque??
Taxrefugee Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,535 Points:414,245 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 4:03:27 PM Ignore Taxrefugee Report Abuse Govt motors,debut in O's home,town.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:35,351 Points:2,399,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:41:58 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse gm will screw it up, just wait
beck12j All-Star Author Dayton Posts:971 Points:335,310 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:33:03 PM Ignore beck12j Report Abuse but who trusts GM
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,193 Points:1,140,020 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:16:59 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse So sell them GM.... now... get them on the market... along with the Cruze...
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,193 Points:1,140,020 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:16:28 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse I am still torn between the Trax and the Groove... (grin)
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,193 Points:1,140,020 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:16:06 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse My sister still wants a Trax....
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,193 Points:1,140,020 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:15:48 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Still waiting for the Triplets GM promised seven years ago
Gnusman53 Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,193 Points:1,140,020 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 3:15:12 PM Ignore Gnusman53 Report Abuse Hopefully they will sell it and sell the super-efficient model here in the US
Gazas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,399 Points:475,575 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:45:56 PM Ignore Gazas Report Abuse Interesting.
amoshins Champion Author Trenton Posts:2,306 Points:667,995 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:20:24 PM Ignore amoshins Report Abuse Still not ready for a diesel
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,343 Points:1,325,920 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:14:01 PM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse And it's looking like Nelson Cruz is on PEDs
schvanda63 Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,412 Points:280,270 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:19:55 PM Ignore schvanda63 Report Abuse Too little, too late for GM. They have lost all their credibility with the American people. I wont buy another GM product.
jeffbone Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,408 Points:415,600 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:15:06 PM Ignore jeffbone Report Abuse Bring it on...hopefully Chevy will show one at the DC Auto Show...