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MrGasKGB

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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:19:35 AM

DETROIT -- Most prospective Malibu buyers at Castle Chevrolet in suburban Chicago quickly decide that they don't want to pay nearly $3,000 more for the Eco mild-hybrid version.

"For most people, it's hard to justify the extra money based on the extra fuel economy" of a combined 3 mpg more than the base model, says Jeff Tuckman, the dealership's inventory manager. "You've got the base LS model sitting next to it that's just as nice and luxurious."
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blupupher
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:08:22 AM

Yup, in order for hybrids to be successful, they need to be cheaper and offer more improvement in MPG.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:10:35 AM

Yes, that's a no-brainer! Why Chevy would set up their line to compete with offerings from other manufacturers in the most competitive segment of the automotive market just beyond me!
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Ahking
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 2:52:04 AM

the first version often costs more.
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 1:57:06 AM

GM = tough sell? Hardly. Over here it equals NO SALE.
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rcornel
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 12:38:02 AM

Interesting.
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:36:48 PM

anything GM is a tough sell for me
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Mystikal1
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:54:47 PM

No V6 equals no Malibu. Eco not even in the equation.
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 6:36:50 PM

The best way to sell this, evidently, is not by any economic payoff from the slight fuel economy increase, but by touting the extra power when needed, appealing to general desire to conserve in the aggregate, and other non-economic factors. Surely dealers know how to do that after doing it for so long.
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SVmike
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:44:23 PM

If you average ~30 mpg and drive the car for 100K miles you would use 3333 gal of gas. Saving 3 mpg wold save you 10% or about 333 gal for 100K miles. Thus a savings of about $1000 for $3/gal and $1333 for $4/gal gas.

So you'd have to drive the car about 250K to 300K miles to break even

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ceklea
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:19:03 PM

The Malibu Eco gets 25 mpg in city driving and 37 on the highway, compared with a 22/34 rating for the 2.5-liter model.
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:16:08 PM

Wow, people voting with their pocketbooks...for as long as the gummint will allow them to, anyway...
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eric_tdi
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 12:12:56 PM

Not Ready for Prime time !! People aren't all dumb !!
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YumaFellow
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:55:29 AM

Looks like this needed more engineering and design work. Just 3 mpg doesn't make a case for hybrid even if one likes them.
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YaBassa
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:15:59 AM

Wait for the next-generation eAssist system and re-evaluate then
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highdesertman
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:12:55 AM

The biggest problem with these is that the battery takes up about a third of the already undersized trunk. That's a non-starter for me.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:58:34 AM

what a complete piece of crap
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:48:21 AM

No surprise here!
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fora_7
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:32:10 AM

Hybrid or electric cars are OK but only in states or countries not stuck with cold weather a third of the year. Not only the battery looses most of its strenght in cold weather, but the heating system is also wearing down the battery faster. Here in Canada, hybrid and electric cars are hopeless.
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bigt61
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:51:26 AM

Imagine that, customers don't want to go "green" unless it makes just a little economic sense. I wish Obama would think that way. But what does he care, it's not his money.
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Skunk63
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:39:20 AM

Not that I even would consider buying another GM product, but most buyers are either not willing to pay more upfront for lower operating costs because they feel it is not worth the payoff over time, or the just don't car about fuel economy so much that they want to deal with complicated features.
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Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:36:51 AM

Sounds like GM needs a little hand out from you know who !! We have to protect those union people and bad management at all cost to you.
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bisonjim
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:36:14 AM

$250.00 sounds more reasonable, but $3000.00 for 3 mpg, don't think do.
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:29:22 AM

See where it goes.
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GingoutMD
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:25:26 AM

Definitely not worth the price for only a 3mpg improvement.
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RAJNY
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 9:11:13 AM

right
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BurntOrange
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:44:17 AM

The payback for most hybrids, given that gas prices stay about the same, is between 6 and 7 years.$3K for 3 MPG?

You will never get it back.
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angel4me
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:27:28 AM

money is still tough these days.........
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Rockyguitar
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:25:22 AM

Where the hell does GM come up with these ideas? Hey, dudes, ever hear of cost / benefit ratio?
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lcleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:21:34 AM

yep.....not worth it
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