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aservant Champion Author California Posts:14,215 Points:1,386,965 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 12:18:07 AM Ignore aservant Report Abuse French automaker Peugeot Citroen is claiming a major breakthrough in fuel efficiency due to a new vehicle design that replaces car battery with compressed air. The air tanks refill automatically and power a special hydraulic motor that, like an electric hybrid, works in unison with a regular internal combustion engine. Peugeot says that it can achieve a fuel economy of up to 117 mpg using this technology. Car enthusiast Web site Motor Authority notes that the compressed air technology only adds 220 pounds to the weight of a car, which is well below the added heft of an electric hybrid. The maximum city speed is around 45 mph; the gasoline engine will kick in for highway speeds. Compressed air hybrids could hit the road by 2016. It coud conceivably be a road near you - no matter where Visit Smart Planet for full article

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French automaker Peugeot Citroen is claiming a major breakthrough in fuel efficiency due to a new vehicle design that replaces car battery with compressed air. The air tanks refill automatically and power a special hydraulic motor that, like an electric hybrid, works in unison with a regular internal combustion engine.

Peugeot says that it can achieve a fuel economy of up to 117 mpg using this technology. Car enthusiast Web site Motor Authority notes that the compressed air technology only adds 220 pounds to the weight of a car, which is well below the added heft of an electric hybrid. The maximum city speed is around 45 mph; the gasoline engine will kick in for highway speeds. Compressed air hybrids could hit the road by 2016.

It coud conceivably be a road near you - no matter where
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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 5:47:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse oh yea.. I forget, that was a 2 cylinder, double soda can sized enginer. But it did a great job getting me around and never complained.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 5:56:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse my Citroen 2CV got about 55 mpg back in the dark ages.
ScottE Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,352 Points:2,199,780 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 1:27:16 PM Ignore ScottE Report Abuse the 4th Law of Thermodynamics.. Wait till big oil execs send in their killer teams.They will sabotage THIS as they have in other new powerplants over the decades. GREED trumps benefits to MAN! Hopefully ALL their built up BADDDD kARMA will get them ALL (INCLUDING Speculators) back to their early graves as their all Nocturnal bloodsuckers.
jethro5000 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,887 Points:393,185 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 12:40:17 PM Ignore jethro5000 Report Abuse Lets go
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,561 Points:749,995 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 7:59:19 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse ok
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,073 Points:2,347,460 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 4:09:39 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Gasoline air hybrid technology promises 100+ mpg? A liquid fuel, high mpg vehicle will out perform any other method of propulsion for a vehicle. This air Inbred is headed in the wrong direction and going nowhere. Don't believe the French, they will try to sell you anything. There maybe just a bunch of inflated party ballons inside to power the vehicle air engine. Wasn't there a hydraulic vehicle promising the same high mpg thing? I will drive my vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, used, EV, Inbred, Plug In, diesel, hydrogen, alternative fuel, CNG, concept and certainly NOT a Fiat, Prius, Tesla, Leaf, Volt or an NYC/Hurricane Sandy Special 'exploding submarine' Fiskar Karma Inbred! And NO French compressed air driven Peugeot either! Vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,583 Points:1,774,295 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:59:01 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Nice little coal burner. It is an indirect EV. Uses electricity to run a compressor. Coal makes electricity. Onboard fuel is very light. As light as air. Neat technology. Keep trying!
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,360 Points:676,040 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:57:20 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse looks promising....
unemployed58 Veteran Author Montreal Posts:250 Points:64,145 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:51:38 PM Ignore unemployed58 Report Abuse very interesting !
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,075 Points:1,733,165 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:46:35 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse ma promised a balanced budget.... which is more likely?
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,736 Points:416,745 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:46:26 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Perhaps if it was made by Toyota I would consider buying one
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,721 Points:602,215 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:44:22 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Interesting "concept"...
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,664 Points:2,361,920 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:40:26 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse Would be interesting to see how this develops. Some say it is old technology but it it works and saves a battery use then why not.
skyking19 Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,006 Points:1,701,540 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:38:29 PM Ignore skyking19 Report Abuse Intersting for sure.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,792 Points:646,535 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:38:26 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Old technology and will probably never be implemented.
PrepHermit Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,111 Points:1,646,130 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:32:44 PM Ignore PrepHermit Report Abuse If it sounds too good to be true...
BREW9 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:891 Points:2,914,780 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:31:07 PM Ignore BREW9 Report Abuse right
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:12,108 Points:2,292,720 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:30:26 PM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse Air tanks have proven safe. Used on truck brakes, etc.
too_darned_high Sophomore Author Indianapolis Posts:211 Points:338,460 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:27:08 PM Ignore too_darned_high Report Abuse They forgot to add one final line... "Your mileage may vary."
matthwbar Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,073 Points:1,019,755 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:24:24 PM Ignore matthwbar Report Abuse We'll see about that...
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,727 Points:1,693,830 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:24:14 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse show the people of missouri
ESCORT6768 Champion Author Iowa Posts:1,082 Points:612,640 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:23:56 PM Ignore ESCORT6768 Report Abuse Believe it when I see it.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,091 Points:2,472,165 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:23:29 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse I'm skeptical till proven.
FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,380 Points:1,990,375 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:22:48 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse "The maximum city speed is around 45 mph" This thing doesn't sound like its ready for "Prime-Time." If they claim 45MPH is tops in the city it will probably turn out to be lower in actual use.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,213 Points:873,785 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:21:26 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse I will believe this when it is available to the public for purchase. Gas Buddy always has stories about phenomenal gas mileage breakthroughs that never seem to be realized.
WillCody Champion Author Austin Posts:8,185 Points:1,511,120 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:18:44 PM Ignore WillCody Report Abuse This is interesting. I read about the IC engine/compressed air hybrid concept some 25-30 years ago, and wondered why it had never come to fruition. The technology is old, whereas the new battery technology in hybrid electric vehicles raises concerns about battery life and the effect on the environment during manufacture and/or recycling. I look forward to seeing whether this concept can deliver.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,314 Points:600,545 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:17:26 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse would rather buy a fiat
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:15:20 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse After working on vehicles made by Peugeot for too many years, I find it hard to believe that they can make anything that will stay together or do what they say they can do. If you have any thoughts of buying their crap, you better check into it very thoroughly before you throw away your hard earned money. They have built junk for so long, it is hard to envision them changing their ways!
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,009 Points:1,123,630 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:14:05 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse We'll have to wait and see.
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,956 Points:1,184,935 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:13:46 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse Hope it works ,,,,
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:13:40 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse Now let's see it happen
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,456 Points:719,815 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:12:36 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse Nice lets see it in practical use though.
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,417 Points:2,910,710 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:11:23 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse Looks good on paper and on a computer, but, reality is what counts
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,872 Points:364,080 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:09:38 PM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse Looks promising. We'll see.
cssco Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,337 Points:1,753,480 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:07:33 PM Ignore cssco Report Abuse Promises, promises!
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,317 Points:1,962,520 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:07:25 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse Will have to wait and see about this.
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jobo74 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:941 Points:777,710 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:36:46 PM Ignore jobo74 Report Abuse Just like all the others that don't work out
boborobot All-Star Author Michigan Posts:501 Points:419,300 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:13:41 PM Ignore boborobot Report Abuse Sounds like a bunch of hot air
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