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mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 4:42:28 AM

Ethanol strengthened against gasoline on speculation that plant closings and lower output will help alleviate a glut.
The biofuel’s discount to gasoline narrowed 0.76 cent a day after Aemetis Inc. (AMTX), a U.S. ethanol manufacturer, said it idled its plant in Keyes, California, absent a profit to make the additive. A Jan. 16 Energy Information Administration report showed production sank to 784,000 barrels a day last week, the lowest level since the Energy Department’s analytical agency began reporting data in June 2010.
“There’s still plenty of barrels out there but if we stay sub-800,000 barrels we’ll clean that up very quickly,” said Ian Jackson, a trader at SCB & Associates LLC in Chicago.
The grain-based additive was 42.18 cents cheaper than gasoline, based on prompt-month contracts
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 6:50:00 AM

Enough of ethanol -- get rid of it!
NedW
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:49:38 PM

Ditto, Jeff4U.
Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 10:12:31 PM

Simply put, ethanol sucks.
Bearcat500
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 9:09:35 PM

OK
gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:51:24 AM

Just get rid of ethanol -- it's a terrible alternative fuel option!
Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:21 AM

BAN ETHANOL !!!
Night Owl
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:00:02 AM

No more ethanol.
NedW
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:49:42 PM

Ban ethanol.
Wanda127
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:39:26 PM

Ethanol destroys our small engines & older cars.
tankumo
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 9:15:02 PM

Nasty stuff, it corrodes, why even bother.

Oh I know, the corn lobby is too strong.

jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 7:55:03 PM

Yuch
PathfinderSC
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 7:08:11 PM

No Ethanol .
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 6:13:13 PM

Perfect comment, cableman31! The politicians need to stop being bought and fight for the consumer like they supposedly were nominated to do!
TripleHs
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 4:51:20 PM

we should get ethanol out of our gasoline
Nicoalbum
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:48:09 PM

Ethanol is much greener. But we need better engines for that
coughlin
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:40:24 PM

No fuel for food!
VomVom
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:23:26 PM

If one adds all the govt subsidies and its lower gas mileage, ethanol is infinitely more expensive than gasoline.
eye-spy
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:28:27 PM

I believe that you are right....."cableman31".
Posted at...10:18:29am.
bwatchingu
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:49:56 PM

BAN ethanol
dh0770
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:31:49 PM

Good....the cows are celebrating!
bsnort
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:17:40 PM

@ buckeeye - you hit the nail on the head - we will be stuck with this garbage for another four years! obtw, just got my gas weedeater overhauled after two summers of use - thanks ethanol!
Skunk63
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:55:09 PM

Ethanol is crap.
bar1035
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:13:32 PM

Agreed LuckyLindy .

Actually saw a 16 cents spread on e-85 this past week. Largest ever around here.
Luckylindy
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:26:10 AM

There is a glut because no one wants it.
Don20
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:22:29 AM

If they are loosing money making ethanol, hope they loose the A$$. Maybe they will stop making ethanol. Corn is for the kitchen table not fuel...
Gary65
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:45:38 AM

Once and for all forget about Ethanol.
SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:43:14 AM

get rid of ethanol in gas.....
dr047
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:42:11 AM


Attention do nothing congress:

WE DON'T WANT THIS CRAP!

signed
Your Employer
Point__man
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:38:36 AM

If they work at it enough, they will manage to raise gasoline prices to $5/gallon before summer season gets here ;) Hiding how they did it is becoming more difficult as if anyone really cared anymore ;)
91_Metro_Man
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:33:08 AM

Get the ethanol out of our gas. Its trouble for the internal combustion engine.
merlinCO
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:33:06 AM

Long ethanol to replace oil! Keep farmers and make renewable fuel.
4wheel
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:29:07 AM

Did anyone notice how quick they took this article off the homepage?
sivart
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:28:19 AM

Stop giving them my hard earned tax money and see how long they (refineries) will last!!! Use my tax dollors for something useful!!!
Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:27:45 AM

The government is taking over. They control what we put in our cars. They control what we put in our mouths. Time to move out of America.
scu227
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:27:16 AM

Ethanol is not the answer, it is only adding to the cost of food.
bell05
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:26:36 AM

Well Hi1, you are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Down and away with ethanol.
Diesel_Ram
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:26:05 AM

What a sick jok this is!
slayur
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:25:56 AM

Forget ETHANOL...
Wolfwings
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:25:00 AM

Sinceethanol LOWERS MPG, it would seem likely that it would beBETTER for us to NOT use it.

Oh, Wait.... we are talking GUMMINT folks forcing iton us.
diesel8888
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:24:58 AM

What's next? Putting cyanide in our drinking water because population overgrowth? Come guys, you are killing our cars over here!
Tnerbeel
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:24:45 AM

13% less expensive and 20% less efficient. What a deal!! Not to mention all the small engine repair jobs it creates.
4wheel
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:24:37 AM

The reason there is a glut is they cant sell it anywhere but here because no one else wants this crap! If the consumer had a choice, the ethanol producers would be out of business! But, we all know that is not going to happen! The farm lobby is just too strong.



[Edited by: 4wheel at 1/19/2013 10:25:46 AM EST]
infinititom
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:24:06 AM

And taxpayers are paying for it.
ARCO
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:23:43 AM

YEP
Hi1
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:23:38 AM

I do not believe in ethanol should take it off the market.
Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:23:25 AM

As long as Obama & the democrats are in power, the ethanol lobby has friends in their pocket.
LuthierKS
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:20:13 AM

The production of ethanol should go to zero.
INBwana
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:20:11 AM


We need to stop using food and feed products for fuel.
freedomsailor
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:20:01 AM

A corny post.
chevellefan
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:19:53 AM

go figure
BigHorne1
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:19:11 AM

This will just keep prices high and the economy sluggish.
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