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Tiernan2012 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,088 Points:175,285 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:37:45 AM Ignore Tiernan2012 Report Abuse The Interior Department is again delaying a proposed rule that would require companies drilling for oil and natural gas on federal lands to publicly disclose chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing operations. The Obama administration first proposed a "fracking" rule last May, with a final rule expected by the end of the year. Officials later revised the timeline to early 2013. On Friday, the department pushed the deadline back again, announcing plans for a second draft version by the end of March, with publication of a final rule not expected until late 2013. Visit Associated Press for full article

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The Interior Department is again delaying a proposed rule that would require companies drilling for oil and natural gas on federal lands to publicly disclose chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing operations.

The Obama administration first proposed a "fracking" rule last May, with a final rule expected by the end of the year. Officials later revised the timeline to early 2013. On Friday, the department pushed the deadline back again, announcing plans for a second draft version by the end of March, with publication of a final rule not expected until late 2013.

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,204,605 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:07:50 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse LMAO! Of course HAZMAT labels are required. But you obviously and conveniently did not read my 3rd, 4th, and 5th paragraphs. Still waiting for the OSHA citations!
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,939 Points:751,985 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 3:09:21 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Excellent Cakes, so glad you're listening! You are part of the way there with your acknowledgment of HAZMAT labels required at every industry site, not just oil and gas production. Now go back and really familiarize yourself with FracFocus where the well reports show all chemicals used. When you do, you will find that the only thing left out is the percentage ratios of the proprietary chemicals, not the chemical names. The truth is setting you free as it always shall!!!
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,204,605 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 9:12:11 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse LOL, yes I am familiar with FracFocus, No, it is not complete. Having been a HSE Manager for industries, I can't for the life of me remember a section related to Fracking chemicals specifically. Of course, there is a huge section on HAZMAT. Perhaps you could give me an OSHA citation...if you can? I am sure that you also know that OSHA does make spot inspections of companies usually after there has been a complaint filed. There are about 6 enforcement officers in this entire state, so they are a little busy with their enforcement and teaching duties too. If the company is found out of compliance with HAZMAT, the fines are miniscule (less than $10,000... usually a couple of thousand) unless there has been a related death! It is far cheaper for an Oil Company or any company to take the chance of non-compliance, and bet there won't be an accident. Ready for that citation! I have the OSHA book right here in front of me.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,939 Points:751,985 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 9:23:15 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse ROFLOL, Cakes should really take the time to investigate FracFocus and OSHA law. When all one does is read HuffPo the truth can be very elusive! Then and only then will one be able to discern the truth because...... The truth shall set you free!
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,204,605 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:10:40 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse LMAO! Pop...Baloney...FracFocus is hardly complete. This truth should calm you and give you something to research!
johton Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,205 Points:310,965 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 5:40:24 PM Ignore johton Report Abuse Well they won't and probably can't do anything. That's government!
oilfreak All-Star Author Houston Posts:682 Points:36,560 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:07:18 AM Ignore oilfreak Report Abuse I wonder what the government really knows about fracking.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,939 Points:751,985 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:36:43 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse They've been "hiding" nothing Cakes. OSHA law has required every single chemical, at every single I dusty site, including oil and gas wells, be labeled with HAZMAT ID's for ages. In addition, FracFocus has detailed listings of fracturing fluids detailed voluntarily by oil and gas producers. The truth shall set you free!
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,204,605 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:22:35 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I would rather the Interior Dept be prudent, with ALL the information at hand before making final rules. After all it should not be a difficult thing to list the chemicals an Oil Company is using...unless they have something to hide!
mpg611 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,328 Points:568,120 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 9:48:24 PM Ignore mpg611 Report Abuse Guess they needed a break from raising our taxes.
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:7,379 Points:1,859,605 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:11:31 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse T.Boone says it is ok
lippoe_sokan All-Star Author Provo Posts:612 Points:181,200 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:33:39 PM Ignore lippoe_sokan Report Abuse I suspect government doesn't understand fracking well enough to develop any regulations that make sense anyway.
bwatchingu Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,735 Points:599,670 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:51:35 PM Ignore bwatchingu Report Abuse interesting
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,150 Points:1,297,245 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:20:45 PM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse What else would you expect?
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,939 Points:751,985 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:23:38 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Big government redundancy at its worst. All chemicals at every industrial site, whether oil and gas or not, must be labeled. It's been the law for ages.
SUNOIL Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,235 Points:1,924,055 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:47:05 AM Ignore SUNOIL Report Abuse Just another cliff
dave27johnson Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,787 Points:407,450 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:27:36 AM Ignore dave27johnson Report Abuse Spend time to get the rule right.
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:823 Points:170,730 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:10:31 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse The Special interest group that own Obama should be happy. He is worth every penny they paid for him.
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,711 Points:1,141,335 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 7:49:36 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse How do you regulate something you don't understand?
MImusicman Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,868 Points:406,700 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 6:58:45 AM Ignore MImusicman Report Abuse And this is a surprise and therefore news?
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,416 Points:1,095,220 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 6:19:38 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse This needs to come out NOW, not when some bureaucrat gets off his duff.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,154 Points:2,370,395 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:51:15 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse this will take years and years
charg3rguy1991 All-Star Author Greensboro Posts:756 Points:242,715 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:40:15 AM Ignore charg3rguy1991 Report Abuse not surprised with a delay, the govt never gets anything done on time.
APlus Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,913 Points:990,470 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 4:37:56 AM Ignore APlus Report Abuse Why is the Federal Govt delaying this?
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,249 Points:1,359,455 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:38:51 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse Nobody is going to be happy with this. Only additional technology will solve this debate. And in the meantime a bunch of folks from the govt that aren't half as smart as they think they are will come up with something that is sure to have unintended consequences.
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:1,935 Points:273,265 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:56:32 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse This rule should not be delayed by no means. Only make sense to disclose their chemicals
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:64,353 Points:177,550 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:16:04 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse way past time to publish proposed rule(s) for comment ..............................................
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,761 Points:1,864,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:11:03 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse ban fracking
flatrock14 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,640 Points:774,830 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:10:26 AM Ignore flatrock14 Report Abuse is it safe
RussianAnya All-Star Author Dallas Posts:635 Points:131,900 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:52:57 AM Ignore RussianAnya Report Abuse we are all getting screwed
agoodman4ever All-Star Author Dallas Posts:728 Points:244,830 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:45:53 AM Ignore agoodman4ever Report Abuse we are all getting screwed