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BennoBlue
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:17:59 AM

Gird yourself: It's possible we're about to see a new wave of attacks on electric cars that ignore battery science.

This time the culprit is the troubled Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft. The FAA has grounded all 787s after a string of fires in their lithium-ion battery packs; other countries have done the same.

Which has led at least one supposedly authoritative commentator to say that Boeing is having the same battery problems as those "that have shown up in electric cars."

The problem is that the two types of batteries are, in fact, quite different.

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SkooterG
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:46:11 PM

What an idiot from St. Louis University.
jrs4125
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:24:57 AM

Gas and oil are not going to give up their monopoly on energy easily.
101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:05:58 AM

Boeing is still a good investment.
vwilsonskis
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 9:05:08 AM

dumb, dumb
gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:34:56 AM

Don't believe the hype!
silverfoxv65
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:55:21 AM

They will come up with something, too much money at stake.
CCLighthouse
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:42:38 AM

It is a note worthy article. Problem is we are being worried to death with every and anything. : (
Lairre
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:41:29 AM

The 787 and problems seem to go hand-in-hand.
NAVYHM
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:40:07 AM

YOU ALL ARE MISINFORMED AGAIN... BOEING'S LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES ALONE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM... THE CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT... HEATING/COOLING SYSTEMS... THE INITIALIZATION TRANSFERS & BYPASSES... SIZE/STORAGE/WIRING HARNESSES... SWITCHING FIRE DAMPERS... I COULD LIST THESE ALL NIGHT... AND THEY ARE 10 TIMES SMARTER THAN I AM... EACH & EVERY SYSTEM THE 787 HAS, IS A PROVEN PRODUCT... IN THEORY ALONE, THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT... BUT, THE LAWS OF AERO-SPACE ENGINEERING DON'T ALLOW FOR THE UNEXPLAINED... BOEING IS THE BEST PASSENGER AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN THE WORLD... TOP TOO BOTTOM...
pa79th
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:33:29 AM

What does this have to do with the price of gasoline?
a14morfun
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:31:44 AM

Too bad those planes have to be grounded. I hope they get the problem fixed quickly.
Doomsday64
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:30:48 AM

Scary
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:30:21 AM

Sounds like the battery people need to fix the problem.
Zonk
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:30:15 AM

Not sure I want to travel in a Boeing 787.
10k
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:29:18 AM

one huge difference: boeing has been, and will be, here to stay-EV's are just a waste of my tax dollars, and will be history in 10 years or less..
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:28:11 AM

"dream"-liner becoming a nightmare !!
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:28:03 AM

ok
rahcat
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:26:28 AM

The 787 has been plagued with problems for years, so what't else is new?
pyndasky
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:26:24 AM

aren't Li ion batteries in most cellphones too?
CDMAuto
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:25:15 AM

Man made it can break
walkerms1
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:23:36 AM

Batteries are dangerous! Diesel is the answer.
naspa
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:22:01 AM

They are the same batteries! The only difference is the casing.
unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:19:42 AM

Good thing cars stay on the ground.
GasholeMI
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:19:21 AM

I disagree.

I think they are actually quite similar--neither one seems to work as it is supposed to work.
TonyPSU
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:18:05 AM

new technology
RAKARWOWSKI
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:17:24 AM

Batteries that blow up is not good.
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:40 AM

I hope they get this problem solved quickly.
yakstar
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:31 AM

same as my little flashlite batteries too?
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:22 AM

Okay
bby
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:21 AM

Li ion batteries are very efficient, but they need to be tested thoroughly.
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:10 AM

Interesting.
regout
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:15:58 AM

Yesterday news.
wang91554
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:15:39 AM

who's attacking? I thought it's a simple lack of interest?
BobD2009
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:15:13 AM

Who knows what to believe.
jrschl
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:14:46 AM

It is a shame they are having these issues.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:14:11 AM

Figures!
Paul1955
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:13:06 AM

Ok
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:12:42 AM

ignorant people
wshutton
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:12:40 AM

Bad battery management can be a much bigger problem than type of battery.
LocalSpyGuy
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:12:39 AM

Not sure what to believe.
Glock26
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:11:31 AM

So much for battery cars!!!
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:11:10 AM

Bad Karma.
obimerrill
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:10:56 AM

And greencarreports is completely unbiased! Yeah right!
oilfreak
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:09:27 AM

Many Boeing employees weren't aware that batteries of all kinds produce heat.
quasar502
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:07:01 AM

Similar.
Wierbe
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:06:51 AM

ANY stored energy is potential danger. We just need to learn how to handle it, and unfortunately, some of the trials do not turn out well.
viperND
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:06:22 AM

whoops
Rockydale
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:06:16 AM

Well I guess you'll just feel like the fracking people did after that UAE sponsored film did after their industry was smeared, eh!! I guess Greencarreports is only interested in factual reporting when it benefits them.

[Edited by: Rockydale at 1/20/2013 12:07:30 AM EST]
cheaper0ON
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:05:30 AM

Hmmm...
LostInNY
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:05:10 AM

more to this story, not like it's new technology...
Dailyrun
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:03:41 AM

and.....?
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