mastermariner

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 9:34:33 PM
Go NG
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Cashless

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Akron
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:44:17 PM
Maybe at a later date.
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Mystikal1

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Akron
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:58:45 AM
Don't want a hybrid, don't want a diesel! What I want is a BIG V8 and low gas prices.
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millerin

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 9:04:04 AM
will see
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blupupher

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:29:54 AM
no thanks
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danny999

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:52:53 AM
Dissapointed in auto mfg.There has to be an engine that can get over 40 mpg.Can't believe engineers are that stupid in U.S.,,or is it UNION workers?
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WalkingWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:02:12 AM
1990s Buick Park Ave and LeSabre - 30 mpg
1990s Buick Regal - 35 mpg
Only 40 mpg with these compact cars?
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kkimes

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:56:30 AM
You do pay a premium for a diesel car just like a hybrid but its not as complex. Problem is you pay a premium for the fuel you put in it too. So if you could average 40mpg, that would be more like 35mpg if you figure it as cost per mile.
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leeac

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:54:46 AM
Government required improvement to fuel economy is a good thing.
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:54:41 AM
Don't be lead footed.
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BobBG

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:27:45 PM
I bought a Hyundai last year thinking it got 40 mpg only to find out they lied to the EPA about their test results. Now Hyundai is paying me to make up for it.
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CityCouponer

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 10:56:56 PM
Ok, we have the list without a slide show, but how about some prices???
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hrtdi

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Vermont
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 10:47:23 PM
True more diesel hybrids Cannot wait! I like the VW... Go figure!!
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:53:29 PM
Need more Diesel Hybrids.
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:10:12 PM
Not for families, but also not "dinky".
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:07:33 PM
More 40 MPG cars are needed.
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clpassenubye

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 7:37:33 PM
I love the look of the Tesla Model S I have seen some on the street and they are sharp but costly.
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Wanda127

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 7:29:53 PM
I would rather have a small SUV than these cars
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BBopp

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 7:09:00 PM
None of those cars are on my wish list.
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johton

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 6:58:06 PM
I don't want any of those cars!
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wz

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 6:21:30 PM
If 40 mpg are topping the list, how are they going to achieve a 54.5 AVERAGE? They need to start putting 50+mpg cars back on the road.
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tankumo

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 5:18:28 PM
You heard the news the MPG claim may be false.
Should try using natural gas CNG, cheaper to fill too.
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Tekkersmom57

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:48:51 PM
Now if they could only make these vehicles bigger to fit an average family!
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tjts1

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:06:32 PM
All of these are cheaper and more efficient than a motorcycle.
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crep1291

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:00:21 PM
None of those are cheaper or more efficient than most motorcycles.
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rcornel

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 3:58:54 PM
The VW looks good.
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molebaby96

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 3:58:25 PM
They could put more on the list if manufactures would put a higher gear in transmission.
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 3:52:53 PM
Thanks for this list.
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BuckyTJones

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 3:09:12 PM
Yawn..........
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:48:52 PM
no matter how much oil they can ever pull out of the ground...
folks will always pay more than it's worth...
simply because.. they've got money to burn....
I doubt any of these can actually deliver 40 in real world...
but if you're inclined..
go for it...
it beats getting 24 MPG...
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BUSMAN1105

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:48:11 PM
I LIKE HYBRID MYSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tnfran

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:44:50 PM
Sounds good if aperson can use one of these 5 to meet their needs.
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:08:46 PM
big whoop
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ziyulu

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:59:34 PM
I can name 5 options that are non-hybrid and non-gasoline: - Walk - Bike - Manual Scooter - Skateboard - Rollerblades
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mastermariner

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:43:19 PM
Change to diesel
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:30:24 PM
The biggest problem for diesel right now is the high price of the fuel..... in many places about 30 cents per gallon more than regular.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:28:30 PM
Among the used cars...... The Geo/Chevy Metros are hard to beat for gas mileage.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:27:37 PM
Also orphan, the carmakers kept lusting after horsepower....not improving gas mileage.
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:24:58 PM
Actually mileage depends on the driver. A good driver can get better than the EPA. A driver with a leadfoot gets worse than the EPA.
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schatzila

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:11:26 PM
I'm curious if that website actually tested the vehicles to prove that the numbers are accurate or just used the numbers provided from the manufacturer.
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YumaFellow

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:11:07 PM
This is good information to know. Some of these cars don't get the publicity they probably should get.
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Wally3023

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:06:54 PM
Oh
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vjs3

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:58:21 PM
Need to stay with my current vehicle...
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knutzAL

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:55:20 PM
what?
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SUNOIL

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:41:47 PM
THIS WILL KEEP IMPROVING
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FortVancouver01

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:21:41 PM
Without question the Passat TSI would be my choice with one of the Audi TSIs being second choice. I also had a friend who owned a diesel Rabbit who got an average over 60 mpg in Eastern Washington on a long daily commute. If there was a choice of more of the clean and quiet diesels the 40 mpg thing would be even easier to beat. When around the TSI you don't even realize it is a diesel.
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orphancarguyPE

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PEI
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:20:11 PM
Yes, but since 1976 cars have added about 1000 pounds in crash protection, airbags and the like.
"weight is the enemy" (car designer Raymond Loewy)
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Jayburt

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:45:22 AM
In 1976 I got 39-41 in mixed driving (although lot less lights then) in a small car,how is it we haven't progressed further than we have?Pure greed as many making their billions over time on it.
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bluetruck54

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Quad Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:42:48 AM
rather telling that you don't need an expensive hybrid to get good mileage.
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bouncing4fun

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:40:31 AM
No thanks. I will keep my 12mpg Dodge Ram.
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