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CPayZombie
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:36:36 PM

WASHINGTON — Lithium batteries that can leak corrosive fluid and start fires have emerged as the chief safety concern involving Boeing‘s 787 Dreamliner, a problem that apparently is far more serious than government or company officials acknowledged less than a week ago.
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“Unfortunately, what Boeing did to save weight is use the same batteries that are in the electric cars, and they are running into the same problems with the 787 as the problems that have shown up in electric cars,” said Paul Czysz, professor emeritus of aeronautical engineering at St. Louis University.

The lithium-ion batteries in several Chevrolet Volts used for crash-testing caught fire in 2011.
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CPayZombie
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 9:15:51 AM

Some cars leak oil, others will leak battery fluid.
fuelott
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:09:09 AM

all batteries are volatile
qwerty17
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:20:55 AM

uh oh...
genoist
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 7:25:50 AM

You mean volatile batteries are volatile?
335d1
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 6:45:32 AM

Bad news for Boeing.
Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:41:00 AM

IT IS SCARY THAT BOEING IS ON THE SAME PAGE WITH GM !!!!!!!
Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 2:36:51 AM

LEAVES, VOLTS & 787 ALL POORLY ENGINEERED.
BMW ENGINEERING IS BETTER THAN ANY OF THEM !!!
alterman156
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:58:40 AM

Hopefully Boeing will correct the problem.
CityCouponer
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:59:15 PM

This IS relevant to the GasBuddy site. It involves transportation.
rcornel
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:58:54 PM

Wrong site...
lesndave
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:12:21 PM

Scary
BennoBlue
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:12:12 PM

How is this relevant to the GasBuddy site?
jl1rp
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:36:19 PM

Boeing getting hit by something spec by them, but is the battery made by them or a other company.
drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:34:43 PM

From the article "Mike Sinnett, chief engineer on the 787, said last week that the plane’s batteries have operated through a combined 1.3 million hours and never had an internal fault. He said they were built with multiple protections to ensure that failures “don’t put the airplane at risk.”
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Hard to believe that this did not come up before now.

Cover up anyone?
PathfinderSC
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:09:04 PM

Hope they can get this fixed before people are hurt.
Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:01:40 PM

Irrelevant to gasprices.com
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 8:24:42 PM

This has been happening to electric cars for a while now. The nice thing about a car is that when it starts burning, you can pull over to the side of the road and get out. Try to do that at 30,000 ft.
esq262
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 8:10:27 PM

Batteries catching on fire? I think I have heard this before.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 7:20:43 PM

Agree scary. Not getting a charge out of this one.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 6:29:39 PM

scary
knutzAL
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 6:14:33 PM

ya think. hate um in my power tools but its all that is available.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 5:58:28 PM

Scotty...we need more dilithium crystals!!
playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 5:34:34 PM

There are always bugs to work out of new planes, just like new cars. The thing about planes & guns is they attract a media circus, even though they are both safer then cars.

[Edited by: playtimeCLE at 1/17/2013 5:36:00 PM EST]
drobbbb
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 5:25:38 PM

they better fix it quick
LostInNY
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 5:20:59 PM

bait and switch? Different gear used in production vs the teat planes?
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:59:08 PM

<<"like any new product that hits the market there are going to be a few hiccups with the new technology, this is to be anticipated and planned for.>>"

Is this guy kidding? Hiccups on an airliner that could cost hundreds of lives?!?!
thizben
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:47:18 PM

Looks like we need some new innovations in battery technology.
Skunk63
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:22:01 PM

Sticking with diesel.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:12:29 PM

There was a documentary a few years ago about some other problems with that 787 associated with the carbon fiber that could fail. Not a good time to be holding Boeing stock.

ObieDog
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:08:38 PM

Truly sad.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 3:18:31 PM

dung is dung no matter the vehicle
OHMS
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 3:04:31 PM

not due diligence
CPayZombie
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:49:07 PM

evowner has not seen the headlines for EV blowing up.
gizbo123
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:40:36 PM

Only happening in japan. Put in duracells then.
evowner
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:32:29 PM

Why didn't this show up before? We have an electric car and haven't had a problem.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:28:21 PM

Can't use a Smart Phone on a plane ho well.
tankumo
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:17:59 PM

No problem, new planes always encounter challenges, Boeing knew it and already have contingent plants to fix them.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:06:05 PM

Just like the Swissair 111 tragedy, cutting corners too far just to save weight can have tragic consequences.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:02:38 PM

like any new product that hits the market there are going to be a few hiccups with the new technology, this is to be anticipated and planned for.
beale055
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:50:42 PM

I wouldnt get near one of them
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:43:14 PM

no more use Boeing 787
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:41:33 PM

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Can't use a Smart Phone on a plane which has absolutely no affect on the aircraft or cockpit electronics, but the idiots will put a fire hazard Li-ion battery on a flying fuel cell?!
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:39:47 PM

GET IT FIX..........
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