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JLSindy
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:01:15 AM

Thanks to the fiscal cliff bill signed into law last week, a blend of fuel that contains more ethanol could soon reach more consumers than ever. That's bad news, AAA tells car owners.

The nation's largest motor club says use of the fuel blend, E15, could void car warranties on most cars. More corrosive than traditional gasoline, some studies show E15 may accelerate wear and tear on engines and components.

Federal agencies are pushing E15 as one component of a broader energy policy that promotes alternative fuels as a way to wean the country away from its reliance on foreign oil. The fiscal cliff bills extends a tax credit that makes it easier for gas stations to install E15 pumps and storage tanks. Experts say they think this will accelerate the arrival of E15 across the nation.

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virostek
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 6:58:52 AM

ok.
52MPG
Champion Author Dayton

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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 4:38:41 PM

More problems created by the federal government.
charg3rguy1991
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 6:16:22 AM

The good news is stations are not required to sell E15 and they will still have E10 available. Stations accually would have to add a new tank in the ground that can handle the extra 5% ethanol if they chose to sell E15 and for old stations the contruction won't be cost effective, but a station being built will possibly add the tank fo E15.
danny999
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 4:58:28 AM

This should be on front page of Gas Buddy.Sometimes I wonder where gas buddies heads are at.
Billrusty
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 3:24:44 AM

they are still going to ram the law thru.
CivicMA
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 12:41:38 AM

Idiotic to require E15!
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:11:08 PM

"AAA estimates that only 12 million of the nation's 240 million light-duty vehicles are equipped to handle E15, and that the danger of damage is especially higher in cars built in 2001 or earlier."

Are you KIDDING me......5%, yes a measly 5% are equipped to handle E15. They need to be halted and more studies collected before cars end up being damaged and not covered by warranty!
BobBG
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:01:26 PM

Ditto.
alterman156
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:44:44 PM

Don't push E-15 please.
PathfinderSC
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:55:30 PM

Burn pure gas, No Ethanol.
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:40:25 PM

Sigh.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:48:49 PM

On Jan 12, 2013 11:20:03 AM, BBopp wrote:

>Just who are our elected officials listening to? Not their constituents.

Have you contacted your elected officials objecting to E-15? If not, don't be complaining about the elected officials not listening to their constituents. GasBuddy whining, IMHO, does not qualify as the First Amendment right of petition for redress of grievances.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:42:56 PM

Just because the Government offers a tax credit for installing E-15 pumps and storage tanks, it does not mean that anyone has to take advantage of it. And, at least for the foreseeable future, E-15 will not replace E-10.
johton
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:28:20 PM

That's what O wants!
WestDriver
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 6:37:18 PM

One more way govt. is using its power to take away rights.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:30:09 PM

ethenol sucks
BBopp
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:20:03 PM

Just who are our elected officials listening to? Not their constituents.
Jkent1953
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:19:49 AM

E0 is what we should be using.
gbs1
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:15:16 AM

Stop the E15 and keep E10.
GasHunter0007
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:15:03 AM

Is this something that can avoided at the pump? doesn't sound like it. More studies, obviously but implemention is a no-no at this point if the consumers are going to take a major hit.

Write to your Congress people! Is anyone wearing their thinking caps or are they totally void of any rational, common sense thinking
Skunk63
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 11:07:43 AM

Ethanol is crap.
merlinCO
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:59:50 AM

Now the AAA behind big oil...ethanol is good and is recommended in high octane vehicles.
playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:45:26 AM

The government & gas stations need to give us the option of buying this fuel or fuel with less or no ethanol.
mastermariner
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:41:23 AM

Good for farmers
focusvt
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:26:14 AM

Make the people that make these rules use E15 in their vehicles, exclusively, first.
Discovery02
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:03:04 AM

Then those Federal Agencies can buy me a new engine designed to use their mandated E15 fuel.
fuel2use
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:31:51 AM

E-0.
Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:24:26 AM

Maine is about to pass a state law banning E-85 from being used in Maine, if 2 other New England states also ban it !!
Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:22:54 AM

Those clever democrats hiding an ethanol lobby demand in the fiscal cliff deal, so much for Obama's transparency. Just follow the money and you find a rotten politician at the end !!
Peachy1
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:03:47 AM

OMG you've got to be kidding me!! DC is absolutely useless. Can't get anything right. All need to be fired before anymore destruction.
SSwathwood
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:56:55 AM

Once again government causing more trouble.
oilfreak
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:54:21 AM

It's obvious the fiscal cliff deal is an epic fail.
Radar1992
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:51:23 AM

E85 is bad....we need to grow food for people....not cars....
Rappcommuter
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:38:39 AM

I agree with City Couponer. If you don't like this, write your congressman. I am going to.
teenitup
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:36:02 AM

E15 - not good.
CityCouponer
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:33:54 AM

Time to write your congressman.
bwp9970
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:33:52 AM

With the cost of corn right now being so high. Retailers are paying a premium for the gas they are using that is actually less the the E10. They have been talking with Washington to drop the taxes they have been paying. Bogus
bar1035
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:33:52 AM

Good comments danny999.
REBELFAN39
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:33:20 AM

Well we voted the idiots into washington,just help vote them out, next time!
Wally3023
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:30:01 AM

Pay attention to this and don't use it.
ziyulu
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:25:30 AM

danny999 from Florida...

May I remind you that the President's name is OBAMA without the bizarre embellishment. You needn't agree with him, in fact that you don't, could make this thread more interesting.

However, as a citizen, you owe the office respect. Just the basic stuff you learned at home and teach your children now. Schoolyard puns belong in the schoolyard.
OTISFL
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:22:13 AM

I agree--VOID--STAMP OUT D.C.!!
bills299
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:21:31 AM

No on E15!!
doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:17:16 AM

Void the EPA.
txequitygas
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:02:25 AM

Ethanol is the way the government will kill the market support system for farmers. Gov increasing the use of Ethanol, and decreasing the support for farmers. When will the day come that most farmers main crop will be corn for Ethanol, and no support system for all crops? Does this mean that all other crops prices will go up as less supply is available, without a support system?
Luckylindy
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:59:17 AM

How about we void Washington.
SUNOIL
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:58:01 AM

Good for the economy, you'll have to buy new lawn mowers, outboards, snow throwers, cars, and anything else thank has an older motor in it.
sabre75
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:51:11 AM

many engine makers are already doing that with E10.
Evilmaddog
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:49:13 AM

4 more years
gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:41:29 AM

If true, this is just outrageous!
peabeax55
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:37:52 AM

Tell the shop owners you will boycott them if they install E15.
I think the volume of repair claims against stations that carry E15
will DESTROY any tax benefit they might have received.
Lose-lose situation for everyone.
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