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Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:15:21 PM

Thanks to the fiscal cliff bill signed into law last week, a blend of fuel that contains more ethanol could soon reach more consumers than ever. That's bad news, AAA tells car owners.

The nation's largest motor club says use of the fuel blend, E15, could void car warranties on most cars. More corrosive than traditional gasoline, some studies show E15 may accelerate wear and tear on engines and components.

Federal agencies are pushing E15 as one component of a broader energy policy that promotes alternative fuels as a way to wean the country away from its reliance on foreign oil. The fiscal cliff bills extends a tax credit that makes it easier for gas stations to install E15 pumps and storage tanks. Experts say they think this will accelerate the arrival of E15 across the nation.
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achung53
Veteran Author Orange County

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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 12:28:52 PM

No E15 fuel blend.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 11:59:44 AM

On Jan 12, 2013 3:07:28 AM, wild3bill wrote:

>We need to IMPEACH the One who would support this.

So go impeach George W. Bush.

>ULS Diesel was mandated, Bot only cars, Newer than 2007
>could tolerate the lack of lubrication to the injector pumps.

ULSD has lubricity additives added to it.

>My 2003 VW needed A $2000 Injection pump replaced.

That's because everyone knows a Volkswagen is a piece of junk.
blupupher
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 8:55:32 AM

what is wrong with these idiots?
bston
Champion Author Oklahoma City

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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 1:04:10 AM

No ethanol for us!
CivicMA
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 12:40:18 AM

Idiots! Let's save the planet by destroying cars, causing higher repair/replacement bills . . . yup that'll work out just great!
WalkingWV
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:44:35 PM

NO ETHANOL!

No corrosion in my engine please.
johton
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:31:01 PM

Crazy, Crazy, Crazy!
MAC48
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 5:57:16 PM

If you ever want to stop the ethanol scourge be it 10% or 15% in our gasoline supplies, then you must let your US representative and your US senators know your position and keep reminding them of the need to end the requirement to use ethanol in the nations motor vehicle fuels.
skb69sa
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:40:19 PM

Stop the E15.
zwsn01
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:11:39 AM

Corn - it's what's for dinner. not gas
car253
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:55:46 AM

The inmates are in charge of the asylum.
Peachy1
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:06:47 AM

I cannot believe the idiots that run or lead this country. INSANE...ALL OF THEM!!! The only thing they can lead is the US into CAOS.
bigt61
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:46:21 AM

Just don't buy it. And tell everyone you know not to buy it. The nanny state EPA could care less about economic reality and damage to your engine. They have an agenda and are pushing it through until they are stopped by Congress. If no one buys the stuff, maybe they'll get the message.
SUNOIL
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:04:07 AM

Now hear this NO ETHANOL!!!
NedW
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 5:10:58 AM

Insanity runs amok in Washington.
quasar502
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 5:05:01 AM

I don't think so.
SBlouch
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:54:03 AM

Now is the time to call your elected officials and tell then NO to E15.
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:53:46 AM

It is obvious that the Morons in the energy department are not the people who are going to be paying for the damage to the engines. Just like the rest of obama's henchmen they are trained to care less about the people.
evowner
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:46:02 AM

We only should feel sympathy for the inept engineers from Detroit. Their incompetence is the excuse for denying the value of ethanol?
wild3bill
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:07:28 AM

We need to IMPEACH the One who would support this. ULS Diesel was mandated, Bot only cars, Newer than 2007 could tolerate the lack of lubrication to the injector pumps.My 2003 VW needed A $2000 Injection pump replaced. The $600 core allowance on the old pump covered the labor. E15 will cause similar repair problems for gasoline cars not rated for Flex Fuel.I know of only one gas station that sells E85 Flexfuel. The Obama regime may intend to Impoverish "wealthy" Americans, by destroying our cars, until EVERYONE is on food stamps!
Alaydown
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 3:28:24 AM

I suspect that the left wing California DemocRATs in control will mandate in this state, and dictator Obama will mandate it without permission from lawmakers in Congress.
el_fr
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 2:18:51 AM

Nooooooo, get rid of E15. It's bad for cars
BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:49:22 AM

yea
BuckyTJones
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:42:25 AM


Some times it feels like our wonderful leaders are trying to push the peasants to their limits. How much will Joe Pee-On take ?
JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:28:07 AM

This is a scam perpetrated by corn belt politicians. Ethanol has less power than gasoline, it raises food and feed prices and livestock prices. This is an abuse that will ruin older cars.
roadrunnerMO
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:19:56 AM

Legislators just will not quit forcing that crap upon us. They want to get rid of all the old cars and help the auto workers out in getting them to build new ones. More political b.s.
Palantas
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:08:02 AM

I hear nothing good about this stuff.
must87searcher
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:07:41 AM

The idea the government has with the usage of ethanol get more suspous. It sounds like they want older autos and trucks too put away and have the oweners/drivers invest in something new, like those with high efficientcy. Ethanol is not worth the trouble, except too those who want too play tricks a chancing things.
MrLefty0706
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 1:03:01 AM

Please test the impact.
SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:59:55 AM

From the article: "Federal agencies are pushing E15 as one component of a broader energy policy that promotes alternative fuels as a way to wean the country away from its reliance on foreign oil."

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I am willing to stretch a little to allow for differing opinions of others, but the mounting evidence from a myriad of sources regarding the deleterious effects of ethanol blended fuels makes me wonder how foolish the "greenies" can truly become in its defense.
danindenver
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:46:35 AM

If it will get rid of those evil automobiles, the obamanation will legalize it ASAP.

alterman156
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:32:23 AM

E-15 could ruin many engines.
KnoxGasPriceSpy
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:32:06 AM

get the gov. out of if
SSwathwood
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:25:59 AM

Just another example of how government doesn't help.
BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:21:45 AM

Not Good
Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:18:10 AM

BAN ETHANOL
Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:15:21 AM

Once again, our freedom of choice is ignored.
Ethanol sucks.
cheap59
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:06:24 AM

Class action against the government?????
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:05:36 AM

I believe AAA more than the federal agencies.
DrGasPain
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:01:38 AM

New rallying cry should be "get the ethanol out" instead of "get the lead out"
slicerette
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:46:26 PM

USDA is "granting" tax money to your neighborhood gas station to install E15 blender pumps. And if your neighborhood station puts in a single hose E15 blender pump, you'll be required to buy at least four gallons to even out the blend.
Vetteblu
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:44:08 PM

Congress, like a runaway train without a way to stop.
NedW
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:39:16 PM

This is theft with the pen.
Zing20
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:20:02 PM

Not a very good idea.
jl1rp
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:13:55 PM

Not plus's on E15. You get lower MPG, lower engine power, and more engine part failing.
tankumo
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 11:09:35 PM

Government only cares about themselves.

Corn lobby is very strong, they are not looking for our interest.
Discovery02
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:51:50 PM

I wonder if there was ever a time when government actually cared about the people? No...I don't think so.
andy1024
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:44:58 PM

When will the lawmakers start listening to people?
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:28:33 PM

Does Al Capone work for the EPA?
humblepie
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:21:06 PM

too bad we cant legislate thier pay and health benefits
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:20:07 PM

Interesting that they note a 12% fuel pump failure rate on E-15. Wonder what the corresponding figure is for E-0?
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