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RevDrCBJ

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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 12:12:53 PM

Could you imagine turning on the faucet in your kitchen or bathroom, and the water ignites, in some cases, creating a fireball right in your house? Believe it or not, it can happen, thanks to a chemical in some drinking water.One family outside Cleveland is living this nightmare right now. . .Turns out, there's highly-flammable methane gas in their well water.
Methane is invisible, and naturally occurring in the ground. It can seep into wells. That seepage is even worse if the ground is disturbed by anything from earthquakes to drilling. And near the Klines' house, it just so happens a natural gas company was drilling.
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lesndave
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 10:48:55 PM

Great balls of fire!!!!
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remay
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 5:30:45 PM

"Methane getting into the water supply only affects people with wells. If you use city water, this doesn't affect you."

Maybe there it doesn't...
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DanMtz
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 9:47:41 AM

No smoking while using the john.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 8:17:23 AM

Move!
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kkimes
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:58:43 AM

While I don't like fracking, it doesn't sound like the basic problem here is the fracking but rather that the fracking is disturbing the ground near his well. Must be a lot of methane gas pockets under ground in that area.
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:15:50 AM

LOL, when faced with the science and facts from the USGS, the best NHLiveUnfree can come up with is that? Fear and unfounded paranoia can only get you so far I reckon!

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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 12:04:44 AM


I see the oil industry shills have jumped all over this one in a heartbeat or two.

The industry paid deniers of course note this is just a figment of the Kline familys' collective imagination. No wait, they are simply professional magicians getting free publicity for their new act, yeah, that's the ticket!

Yes 'doc' and teenie-weenie, you industry paid speakies were right on the spot.
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must87searcher
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 10:05:18 PM

With the introduction of something new, there will be new problems coming up. Here is a example.
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Ply440GTX
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 9:55:12 PM

Saw the same stuff happening to residents in and around Beaumont, TX in a TV report where this homeowner showed the news reporter what would happen if you lit a cigarette lighter next to a running faucet... A flambe!!!
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efwosu
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 9:37:28 PM

This is a result of the water well drilling. My family actually had this same thing occur in southeastern ohio after drilling a deeper water well. You can literally hold a lighter up to the faucet and have a fireball fill the sink.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 9:26:02 PM

EPA & Health dept. Should merge
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 7:20:06 PM

Clean up what, roadrunnin?
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roadrunnin
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 6:40:07 PM

crazy and who gets to pay for the cleanup?
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BBopp
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 6:10:38 PM

Not in my backyard.
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jimgraham
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 5:55:46 PM

Where at in oHIo?? There has been NO local news on this.

Seems contrived to me.
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ktbaeohana
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 4:53:02 PM

so now what happen, is the company is in fault for this. watch and see.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 4:34:36 PM

Regardless of baseline...adding more damage isn't the solution...
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 4:06:10 PM

This can't be true! The oil companies keep telling us how safe it is. They would never lie to us. ò¿ó
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 4:05:46 PM

Looking through the story I couldn't find any evidence that any reporter or anyone else had verified their claim - just sayin

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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 3:50:10 PM

Not good.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 3:05:23 PM

Free energy. Yeah for them!
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 3:05:22 PM

LOL, good one teenitup!
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 2:56:21 PM

Jayburt, instead of posting fear and paranoia, you might want to take a look at this USGS study linkthat shows the baseline of water wells tested in NY BEFORE any hydraulic fracturing has taken place.

The results the agency found:

More than half of wells sampled (53 percent) had detectable levels of methane.
Nine percent of New York water wells had methane concentrations that the Office of Surface Mining says signify an “action level where the situation should be closely monitored.”
And 2 percent of the water wells sampled had concentrations considered ignitable, requiring immediate action to mitigate danger of explosion.

Since there was no real baseline testing done in PA this is a great indicator that PA was likely in the same situation before fracturing ever took place.

Whatever you saw "1st hand" was almost surely already naturally occurring methane pockets that water wells were drilled into.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 2:27:29 PM

Apparently there needs to be strict regulation of water well drilling companies.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 2:03:30 PM

Yeah for fracking! seen 1st hand the damage this technigue did in PA and its scary they don't make them use safe methods.
Flammable tap water anyone? Making hot coffee just took on a whole new meaning.
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 2:02:47 PM

Oh my what NBC will leave out of their stories promoting fear and paranoia!

On December 21, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources’ (ODNR) Division of Oil and Gas Resources Management received a call regarding possible methane migration into a residential water well. The Portage County inspector and one of the division’s hydrogeologists arrived on that same date in response to this call. The initial field investigation was conducted, and water samples were collected. Prior to the drilling in the area, water samples were collected and analyzed as required. This preliminary water test indicated that dissolved methane, along with elevated chloride and total dissolved solids, which exceed U.S. EPA Secondary Drinking Water Standards, were present in the water well prior to any oil and gas drilling. The water well in question was found to be drilled into shale, which is known to contain methane and is naturally occurring.
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alterman156
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:59:34 PM

That water must be awfully hot.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:58:39 PM

and the EPA lets this drilling continue?
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HorizonChaser
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:44:40 PM

Oh, I've seen fire and I've seen rain. Both came out of the same faucet.
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:37:28 PM

Didn't think gas and water mixes very well.
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:22:27 PM

From the article: "Methane is invisible, and naturally occurring in the ground. It can seep into wells. That seepage is even worse if the ground is disturbed by anything from earthquakes to drilling."

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The methane gas occurs "naturally" and can seep into private water wells. The "greenies" want to make a Federal case out of this, but this is a State issue. These folks should contact their state Dept. of Environmental Protection (and possibly their attorney) to determine if there is any correlation between the increase in methane gas and the drilling nearby.

The EPA has no jurisdiction in this matter.
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MrDeath666
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 1:02:15 PM

Maybe they have a few cows in their backyard.
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bicycler
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 12:51:22 PM

I would not like that in my home!
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 12:49:58 PM

WOW.......
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 12:43:57 PM

so sell it to ripley
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