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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:40:48 AM

More than 9,000 megawatts of coal-fired generation were retired in the United States in 2012 as stricter federal pollution standards moved closer to reality and cheaper natural gas made coal plants less attractive economically, according to a Reuters survey of power generators.

U.S. companies have retired or announced plans to shut or convert more than 36,000 MW of older coal-fired plants over the next few years as they work to reduce emissions in advance of new environmental rules and shift to less-expensive natural gas.

Eventually, the transition from coal may shut as much as 60,000 MW to 100,000 MW of coal-fired generation across the country, according to various industry estimates.

Coal plants account for about 316 gigawatts (GW) of generation in the United States, or about 30%...
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 6:06:18 AM

wonder how many lives that reduction in particulate matter saves.
MAC48
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 1:32:00 AM

In the mid 1970s there was a prohibition on building new natural gas fired power plants to keep domestic natural gas supplies available for other industrial uses following the Arab Oil Embargo in 1972 or 1973. Electric companies were basically forced to turn to coal when building new power plants. Now that natural gas has fallen from the $12 to $15 range to the $3 to $4 dollar range per mmbtu combined with the new environmental push by the Obama administration, natural gas has become the current best choice for new electric power generation plants.

The simple fact is that electric power can be produced in the quantities required by either coal or natural gas but many other industries, such as the chemical industry, cannot use coal and must use natural gas. Keep tuned in folks because if you live long enough this story will again turn back to coal being the electric power generation fuel of choice for new power plants when the inevitable rise in natural gas prices occurs due to a rise in price or governmental edict to assure adequate natural gas supplies for industries that must have natural gas to remain viable.
remay
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 11:46:37 PM

not good
tidalwave3
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 6:14:30 PM

tell those coal miners in West Virginia area, Pres Obama. And hand out those pink slips :(
Catfish93001
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 1:04:15 PM

And then the price of natural gas goes up....
jethro5000
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 10:16:12 AM

not sure what to say...
jkpsr
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 2:09:51 AM

We will not miss the coal fired plants. Wait until clean coal gets perfected, although natural gas may remain the cheapest solution.
Doomsday64
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:39:59 AM

Not a good thing here.
5Golfer8
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:39:44 AM

Ok
crreed1
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:21:10 AM

old news
rahcat
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:19:28 AM

When it comes to unemployment....thank the EPA.
CiVX
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:13:32 AM

Maybe its the reduced price of natural gas instead!
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:13:25 AM

More Natural Gas Please.
skybiker
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:11:26 AM

Too many rules!!...It's getting out of control!!
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:10:34 AM

Bummer is out to destroy coal industry--is this what he was elected to do ?
Rooster922
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:09:35 AM

Really
fullauto
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:08:33 AM

starve em out of existence; oh, they did that to natives here all ready, and it worked.
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:08:29 AM

hmmm
regout
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:08:24 AM

Very good news.
alaric76
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:07:49 AM

More government theft by regulation.
jrschl
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:07:43 AM

I hope they stick to their work and open the plant after they upgrade the facility. I foresee energy costs going up because they do not reopen the plant.
Beboper
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:07:41 AM

old news
Ferdman17
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:06:57 AM

Seems like a no brainier with the price of natural gas.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:06:36 AM

Good news.
rsox67
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:05:33 AM

Ok
joel27nc
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:05:31 AM

Cleaner air!
KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:03:25 AM

This can only be good news.
cheaper0ON
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:02:55 AM

Okay.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:02:29 AM

So be it!
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:01:19 AM

We need to keep all of our energy options.
WIWalt
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 12:00:17 AM

So what is the trade off? cleaner air & poluted water from fracking fluid to drink!
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:59:06 PM

Ok
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:58:03 PM

I still want to know what these "clean" coal facilities do with all of their mercury-laden fly ash, @thomas41546. Coal leaves behind ash when it's been burned and it's pretty nasty stuff. You don't want any getting into your rivers and streams.
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:56:43 PM

Less coal more renewable.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:56:04 PM

The problem with wanting to have both coal, and natural gas plants, @Carol7777 is that the industry hates to have any excess capacity when it comes to electricity production. They want their powerplants running at full throttle 24/7. If you have both, then one kind of plant has to be idle while the other one is producing power.
beachmanglen
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:55:26 PM

Nuclear is the answer.
ldiggy
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:55:06 PM

Ok.
wcp3rd
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:55:01 PM

OK
HA4CNN
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:54:30 PM

The fuel of the future is natural gas but it has a lot less calories than any other fuel.
thomas41546
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:54:16 PM

coal can be clean emmission if current standard are used when constructing.
30mpg80
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:53:28 PM

Sure, natural gas is so much cheaper
sleuth696
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:53:23 PM

ok
DEG
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:53:11 PM

I would think that this has a lot to do with EPA regulations by the Obama administration to make coal use more expensive.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:53:09 PM

The Cold War's over @wayoung56. No need to fear the commie pinkos anymore. Besides, I doubt you could still recognize one.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:50:05 PM

Is Dayton prone to blackouts, @mstearno? If not then you have all the energy you need.
DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:49:49 PM

Makes sense...the abundance of NG created by fracking has made coal plants costly to operate.
us4usa
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:49:19 PM

Then we can export all of our coal to China to be burned in their coal plants and they can deal with all the air pollution, just hope it stays over there...

Wonder what happens when the EPA/TreeHuggers shuts down Fracking???
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:49:01 PM

I think @357revo doesn't want to believe in climate change because he secretly wants beachfront property in Pittsburgh.
pkrbkr
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:48:43 PM

Shut down the EPA-not power plants!
vibdata
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:48:24 PM

Boy oh boy. And I thought this was an article about 9000 retirements this year from a power company. Well, if this much power's going offline, I guess the people are too.
Tiernan
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:48:06 PM

Probably not GB-related.
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