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skb69sa

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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 12:11:57 AM

y federal estimate, California may be sitting atop one of the nation's largest oil deposits, buried in rock formations beneath the Central Valley and elsewhere. But tapping this pool will take a largely unregulated and potentially dangerous technique known as fracking that injects chemicals, water and sand to release the oil.

The known risks of fracking have churned up a cross-country debate that has arrived in full force here. California may have ambitious clean-energy goals, but it will still need oil and gas for many years, making fracking attractive. Formally known as hydraulic fracturing, it's credited with creating jobs, reducing natural gas prices and even promoting future energy independence.

An official policy is overdue, and California should be in no mood to unleash fracking w
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 10:43:16 PM


Well made point singlemom27! How quickly we forget where our food comes from....
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 10:13:07 PM


kkimes: Yep, that's what California needs to do. Do everything they can do to increase the likelyhood of having more earthquakes. Must make the residents feel real secure.

Add to that, the water contamination. Water is more precious than gold in California.
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kkimes
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:06:56 AM

Yep, that's what California needs to do. Do everything they can do to increase the likelyhood of having more earthquakes. Must make the residents feel real secure.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 9:30:23 AM

negative Sacramento.. that's a negative .. copy??.......
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endymion
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 8:53:40 AM

Hopefully California will stand up to the commercial interests that are trying to get a fast buck.

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grandpadon28110
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 6:54:43 AM

We need the fuel, Frack!
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tomok
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:48:50 AM

A drilling dilemma on fracking – Drill or Not Drill? Frack or Not Frack? What to do? What to Do?
Horizontal natural gas drilling, more rock and subsurface fracking and possible pollution to the underground water resources. What happens when the ground water is deemed Not Safe and Unfit for drinking?
Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. Big Gas transports natural gas to the refineries, processes it, loads it onto tankers for the sale to other countries.
The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! These resources are Not to be exported without taking care of the domestic market first.
As more and more vehicles are converted to natural gas the price of natural gas will go up and up, natural gas will Not have a reasonable price for very long.
Keep natural gas for heating homes and businesses.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
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bart_reed
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:40:55 AM

California will probably sink into the sea after fracking is started.
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lgwhitlock
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:30:32 AM

It seems to me until the oil companies have to pay taxes to extract the oil we should limit their ability to do so. If they could help the ailing government and pay for things to improve everyone's lives around the state then it might be something to look at...
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WTLITNG
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:24:57 AM

The fracking will be done by the earthquakes. Maybe the Governator can come back and organize the oil export?
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jcurley
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:24:47 AM

Until we have an oil extraction tax, just like every other oil and gas producing state in the country, no more drilling. The GOP in this state wants to bankrupt it (ditto for the country).
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mohammed10
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:21:40 AM

Nothing new in this article...keep it moving
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J Eric
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:19:31 AM

This editorial doesn't really say anything that we don't already know.
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singlemom27
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:16:14 AM

The Central Valley is the largest supplier of fruits, vegetables and grains to the nation. I don't want them fracking with my food supply!
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SnickersDog
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:12:32 AM

Just do it the right way.
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comprof
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:12:27 AM

Hundreds of small quakes every day in the West. These relieve stress on faults. Fracking could be good if it causes small quakes.
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BlkynB
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:10:13 AM

The state is bankrupt, go for it you idiots.

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TurkishMan
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:00:22 AM

what dilemna
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bobdec
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:59:30 AM

Cad idea of they do ot
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Quick68
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:54:35 AM

If they would get this oil our government would ship it to China.
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sehonda
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:47:58 AM

most would be exported
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BeulahME
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:47:48 AM

The problem is California has no water.
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Tigercat88
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:46:41 AM

ENVIRO-NUT.
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otherdave
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:45:26 AM

Boom fracka-lacka!
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wegman
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:45:12 AM

In California??? NO CHANCE the good guys win. The Luddite Green Left will keep the stuff in the ground - maybe until the state goes bankrupt.
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dawnrebel
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:41:53 AM

so what does it do to the water supply and such?
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SteelPenny
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:40:08 AM

God causes earthquakes, not man.
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Matt G
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:39:38 AM

California needs all the help it can get
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kd5kpd
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:39:09 AM

What a fracking nightmare!!!!!!!!
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Happytalk
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:37:10 AM

stay on the east coast
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vulcan96
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:56 AM

also, doesn't fracking cause minor earthquakes???
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UseLessGasFolks
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:55 AM


Oh man.... I don't know.
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Glock26
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:38 AM

O.K.
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Retowered
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:29:05 AM

Interesting We'll see.
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teatiger
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:26:50 AM

Ok
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gaspumpin
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:25:23 AM

I wonder how California will mess this up?
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mil2008
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:23:19 AM

ok
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TheeRedRam
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:21:04 AM

Oh boy another Fracking problem
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:18:01 AM

California, as do other parts of the country, has a decision to make...
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MINIWINI598
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:17:37 AM

Interesting - We'll see.
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rd2000
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:16:41 AM

it will not happen
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Bruno44
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:15:57 AM

Glad I live in Texas.
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BEngr
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:10:04 AM

In the mean time, while California ponders allowing fracking, they will be more than happy to use oil & gas from neighboring states that used this method to produce it.
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kgbellman
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:08:36 AM

That's what concerns me about fracking. It should only be done if it can be done safely - since this process is largly untested . . .
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Bill100
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:06:14 AM

In California, don't get your hopes up.
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jorod55
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:04:43 AM

Don't think it would ever pass here.
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Amplion
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:59:18 AM

Seems to me that California already has enough earthquakes without promoting more !!!!!
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Hop1LA
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:56:53 AM

California is short on water, who is going to give up their share to the drillers?
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Focus2
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:56:03 AM

Fracking also uses a lot of fresh water unless they can get salt water from the pacific which I doubt will happen. That fresh water is gone forever.
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TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:55:55 AM

Hey, maybe if they crack open a fault, Calif can become it's own island. More valuable Waterfront both sides then.
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