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skb69sa Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,482 Points:711,150 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 12:11:57 AM Ignore skb69sa Report Abuse y federal estimate, California may be sitting atop one of the nation's largest oil deposits, buried in rock formations beneath the Central Valley and elsewhere. But tapping this pool will take a largely unregulated and potentially dangerous technique known as fracking that injects chemicals, water and sand to release the oil. The known risks of fracking have churned up a cross-country debate that has arrived in full force here. California may have ambitious clean-energy goals, but it will still need oil and gas for many years, making fracking attractive. Formally known as hydraulic fracturing, it's credited with creating jobs, reducing natural gas prices and even promoting future energy independence. An official policy is overdue, and California should be in no mood to unleash fracking w Visit San Fransisco Chronicle for full article

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y federal estimate, California may be sitting atop one of the nation's largest oil deposits, buried in rock formations beneath the Central Valley and elsewhere. But tapping this pool will take a largely unregulated and potentially dangerous technique known as fracking that injects chemicals, water and sand to release the oil.

The known risks of fracking have churned up a cross-country debate that has arrived in full force here. California may have ambitious clean-energy goals, but it will still need oil and gas for many years, making fracking attractive. Formally known as hydraulic fracturing, it's credited with creating jobs, reducing natural gas prices and even promoting future energy independence.

An official policy is overdue, and California should be in no mood to unleash fracking w
Visit San Fransisco Chronicle for full article

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,205,480 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 10:43:16 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Well made point singlemom27! How quickly we forget where our food comes from....
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,074 Points:1,448,325 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 10:13:07 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse kkimes: Yep, that's what California needs to do. Do everything they can do to increase the likelyhood of having more earthquakes. Must make the residents feel real secure. Add to that, the water contamination. Water is more precious than gold in California.
kkimes Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,601 Points:1,506,310 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:06:56 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse Yep, that's what California needs to do. Do everything they can do to increase the likelyhood of having more earthquakes. Must make the residents feel real secure.
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,001 Points:1,741,835 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 9:30:23 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse negative Sacramento.. that's a negative .. copy??.......
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:828 Points:171,705 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 8:53:40 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Hopefully California will stand up to the commercial interests that are trying to get a fast buck.
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,716 Points:1,142,310 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 6:54:43 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse We need the fuel, Frack!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,014 Points:2,345,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:48:50 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse A drilling dilemma on fracking – Drill or Not Drill? Frack or Not Frack? What to do? What to Do? Horizontal natural gas drilling, more rock and subsurface fracking and possible pollution to the underground water resources. What happens when the ground water is deemed Not Safe and Unfit for drinking? Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. Big Gas transports natural gas to the refineries, processes it, loads it onto tankers for the sale to other countries. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! These resources are Not to be exported without taking care of the domestic market first. As more and more vehicles are converted to natural gas the price of natural gas will go up and up, natural gas will Not have a reasonable price for very long. Keep natural gas for heating homes and businesses. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
bart_reed Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,974 Points:785,630 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:40:55 AM Ignore bart_reed Report Abuse California will probably sink into the sea after fracking is started.
lgwhitlock Champion Author Chico Posts:7,385 Points:1,685,495 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:30:32 AM Ignore lgwhitlock Report Abuse It seems to me until the oil companies have to pay taxes to extract the oil we should limit their ability to do so. If they could help the ailing government and pay for things to improve everyone's lives around the state then it might be something to look at...
WTLITNG Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,854 Points:1,015,195 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:24:57 AM Ignore WTLITNG Report Abuse The fracking will be done by the earthquakes. Maybe the Governator can come back and organize the oil export?
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:7,900 Points:1,775,185 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:24:47 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse Until we have an oil extraction tax, just like every other oil and gas producing state in the country, no more drilling. The GOP in this state wants to bankrupt it (ditto for the country).
mohammed10 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,227 Points:581,670 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:21:40 AM Ignore mohammed10 Report Abuse Nothing new in this article...keep it moving
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,270 Points:2,070,955 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:19:31 AM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse This editorial doesn't really say anything that we don't already know.
singlemom27 Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,113 Points:640,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:16:14 AM Ignore singlemom27 Report Abuse The Central Valley is the largest supplier of fruits, vegetables and grains to the nation. I don't want them fracking with my food supply!
SnickersDog Champion Author Denver Posts:3,283 Points:680,985 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:12:32 AM Ignore SnickersDog Report Abuse Just do it the right way.
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,859 Points:1,356,750 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:12:27 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Hundreds of small quakes every day in the West. These relieve stress on faults. Fracking could be good if it causes small quakes.
BlkynB Champion Author San Diego Posts:19,237 Points:2,406,540 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:10:13 AM Ignore BlkynB Report Abuse The state is bankrupt, go for it you idiots. .
TurkishMan All-Star Author Dallas Posts:679 Points:137,475 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:00:22 AM Ignore TurkishMan Report Abuse what dilemna
bobdec Champion Author Miami Posts:8,964 Points:1,769,820 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:59:30 AM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Cad idea of they do ot
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,223 Points:1,225,800 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:54:35 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse If they would get this oil our government would ship it to China.
sehonda Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,038 Points:916,010 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:47:58 AM Ignore sehonda Report Abuse most would be exported
BeulahME Champion Author Maine Posts:1,107 Points:444,485 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:47:48 AM Ignore BeulahME Report Abuse The problem is California has no water.
Tigercat88 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,197 Points:616,865 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:46:41 AM Ignore Tigercat88 Report Abuse ENVIRO-NUT.
otherdave Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,393 Points:1,269,160 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:45:26 AM Ignore otherdave Report Abuse Boom fracka-lacka!
wegman Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,808 Points:2,088,570 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:45:12 AM Ignore wegman Report Abuse In California??? NO CHANCE the good guys win. The Luddite Green Left will keep the stuff in the ground - maybe until the state goes bankrupt.
dawnrebel Rookie Author Denver Posts:7 Points:174,125 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:41:53 AM Ignore dawnrebel Report Abuse so what does it do to the water supply and such?
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,961 Points:2,607,490 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:40:08 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse God causes earthquakes, not man.
Matt G Champion Author Boston Posts:4,533 Points:2,773,040 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:39:38 AM Ignore Matt G Report Abuse California needs all the help it can get
kd5kpd Champion Author Texas Posts:3,736 Points:1,416,725 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:39:09 AM Ignore kd5kpd Report Abuse What a fracking nightmare!!!!!!!!
Happytalk Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,135 Points:577,865 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:37:10 AM Ignore Happytalk Report Abuse stay on the east coast
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:26,916 Points:3,103,675 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:56 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse also, doesn't fracking cause minor earthquakes???
UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,446 Points:1,295,850 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:55 AM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse Oh man.... I don't know.
Glock26 Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,524 Points:632,385 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:32:38 AM Ignore Glock26 Report Abuse O.K.
Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,577 Points:2,685,415 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:29:05 AM Ignore Retowered Report Abuse Interesting We'll see.
teatiger Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,680 Points:1,476,865 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:26:50 AM Ignore teatiger Report Abuse Ok
gaspumpin Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,670 Points:388,480 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:25:23 AM Ignore gaspumpin Report Abuse I wonder how California will mess this up?
mil2008 Veteran Author San Jose Posts:415 Points:1,271,085 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:23:19 AM Ignore mil2008 Report Abuse ok
TheeRedRam Champion Author Hartford Posts:3,163 Points:672,635 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:21:04 AM Ignore TheeRedRam Report Abuse Oh boy another Fracking problem
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:64,378 Points:178,525 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:18:01 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse California, as do other parts of the country, has a decision to make...
MINIWINI598 Champion Author Washington Posts:3,016 Points:518,680 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:17:37 AM Ignore MINIWINI598 Report Abuse Interesting - We'll see.
rd2000 Champion Author Florida Posts:3,571 Points:686,995 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:16:41 AM Ignore rd2000 Report Abuse it will not happen
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:7,075 Points:1,768,195 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:15:57 AM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse Glad I live in Texas.
BEngr Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,712 Points:1,580,615 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:10:04 AM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse In the mean time, while California ponders allowing fracking, they will be more than happy to use oil & gas from neighboring states that used this method to produce it.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,713 Points:731,840 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:08:36 AM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse That's what concerns me about fracking. It should only be done if it can be done safely - since this process is largly untested . . .
Bill100 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:41,490 Points:1,162,845 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:06:14 AM Ignore Bill100 Report Abuse In California, don't get your hopes up.
jorod55 Champion Author California Posts:1,475 Points:431,725 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 2:04:43 AM Ignore jorod55 Report Abuse Don't think it would ever pass here.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,767 Points:1,865,060 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:59:18 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse Seems to me that California already has enough earthquakes without promoting more !!!!!
Hop1LA Champion Author Baton Rouge Posts:3,314 Points:1,176,495 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:56:53 AM Ignore Hop1LA Report Abuse California is short on water, who is going to give up their share to the drillers?
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,919,155 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:56:03 AM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Fracking also uses a lot of fresh water unless they can get salt water from the pacific which I doubt will happen. That fresh water is gone forever.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,126 Points:1,355,680 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:55:55 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Hey, maybe if they crack open a fault, Calif can become it's own island. More valuable Waterfront both sides then.