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GoBlazers
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:07:29 PM

As we’ve seen in previous stories, cameras intended to catch speeders and red-light violators are not perfect, and now a state lawmaker in Maryland believes that the makers of these devices need to be held financially accountable for each instance in which a driver is incorrectly ticketed.

Following a report by the Baltimore Sun showing that five of that city’s 83 speed cameras were inaccurate, state Delagate Jon Cardin from Baltimore County has called for manufacturers to be fined $1,000 for each ticket issued in error.

Additionally, he wants to require that municipalities using these cameras submit regular audits of the cameras to prove they are working correctly.
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bston
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:34:12 AM

Good luck.
Mr1lung
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:01:57 PM

i agree
Mariuxus
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 9:43:01 AM

YES...100% ..
ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 7:03:43 AM

I agree.
Radar1992
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 6:27:45 AM

Taxation without accountability....It is clear fraud and nothing happens except an 'I'm Sorry, for getting caught' but the municipalities just refund the money and should pay each person double the fine they charged them.
danindenver
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:59:09 AM

Amen
agrico
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:48:59 PM

Municipalities should buy the cameras not pay part of each ticket to the manufacturer - wrong incentive
esq262
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:39:11 PM

They should just get rid of these things.
drobbbb
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:38:26 PM

excellent idea
Nicoalbum
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:30:20 PM

Good!
gbs1
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:08:03 PM

We need to do away with traffic cameras
wamster
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:01:44 PM

If the product you manufacture is defective; yes you should be held accountable.
alterman156
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:53:39 PM

Agreed. The traffic camera manufacturers should pay a fine for each error.
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:25:05 PM

GT3186 - I hope your scenario becomes true.
CVA19
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:48:04 PM

Another loser legislator looking for a penny under every rock. Except, that he just might be on to something. If the manufacturers are fined enough they may no longer want to sell and maintain cameras (that's a plus); and, if the municipalities are faced with expensive audits, they may find the profits dwindle to the point where they no longer want cameras (another plus).
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:25:48 PM

big brother is watching you!
TomT2Lee
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:19:45 PM

Only if every legislator (professional politician) is given the maximum punishment for their massive crimes including traffic cameras.
Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:01:40 PM

"Traffic Camera Manufacturers Should Be Fined For Each Error"
Agreed, and they should pay punitive damages as well.
kag2010
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:44:48 PM

Audits of the cameras to prove they are not working correctly.
playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:27:11 PM

So not only do cities get get ticket payouts, but mistake payouts too. I think the mistake payouts should go to the people who were mistakenly ticketed.
rbrk02
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:18:41 PM

Money grab. These things are nothing else. They need to go.
RonElp
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:51:49 PM

I agree... get rid of the cameras. They are run by 3rd parties who get paid a percentage of the tickets. They have no reason to make them accurate.
LostInNY
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:28:01 PM

How's about getting rid of the cameras altogether?? Does not really provide "safety", just revenues!
xgojim
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:23:53 PM

How about occasional testing by the authorities who install them in the first place? Seems like someone in the County should be held accountable for this kind of problem rather than the manufacturer. Sounds like a "pass the buck" activity rather than "the buck stops" with the person responsible for their use.
ambers926
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:17:17 PM

I'll let you know how my 2 trial dates go for the inaccurate speed traps. I received 1 ticket that state I was going 80mph during rush hour traffic??
jl1rp
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:06:18 PM

Let's just stop using cameras for fines.
crep1291
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:05:31 PM

Sounds fair to me.
RAE344
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:42:35 PM

Problem is, if they are fined, it will be passed onto everyone else. I can seem them adjusting their cameras to maximize the tickets.
sdslim
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:28:30 PM

Need more details.
csblesson
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:21:32 PM

Sounds like a good idea.
bluetruck54
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:03:16 PM

while the Senators' chest-pounding can be expected, the article fails
to state why the camera's were not working correctly, as well as a
host of other facts. a camera takes a picture, so what was inaccurate?

a sloppy, poorly written article to say the least.
rickybobbycat
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:56:32 PM

Traffic cameras falling out of favor lately.
roadrunnin
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:55:44 PM

great idea, but most people don't even try to fight the ticket, and most municipalities don't allow any dispute because the "camera doesn't lie" RIGHT?
ObieDog
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:49:57 PM

Seems like a fine idea !!
humblepie
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:44:59 PM

actually i think its the states problem for putting them out
knowing full well that there where problems like this
fowlcan
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:38:49 PM

Well someone should pay. Do away with the cameras and the errors will follow. Put boots on the ground!
Taxrefugee
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:29:16 PM

Better yet, the mayor and each city council member of any city that uses these entrapment devices should spend a day in jail for each error.
djwhit
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:07:19 PM

THATS GREAT......GET IT DONE......
heydano67
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:56:43 PM

Audits sound like a reasonable fix
Tralp
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:54:15 PM

yea they should be fined and the $1000 goes directly to the one ticketed
hmw10284
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:50:21 PM

Politicians should be fined for each error.
evowner
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:35:47 PM

Misguided logic. Speeding fines are to deter speeding for safety, not revenue enhancement.
EdWoods
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:28:42 PM

Absolutely on Target. Or better yet, just Ban them altogether....
tankumo
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:20:31 PM

Not just that.

Cops should be fined for each error.

me2too4c
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:13:28 PM

I agree manufactures should be fined and just like radar detectors that cops use these should have to be tested and regular submit to audits! Chances are the manufacture makes more than the goverment on these devices. Granted the goverment will get their hands in the pot to get their share too.
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