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GoBlazers Champion Author Washington Posts:7,307 Points:873,025 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:07:29 PM Ignore GoBlazers Report Abuse As we’ve seen in previous stories, cameras intended to catch speeders and red-light violators are not perfect, and now a state lawmaker in Maryland believes that the makers of these devices need to be held financially accountable for each instance in which a driver is incorrectly ticketed. Following a report by the Baltimore Sun showing that five of that city’s 83 speed cameras were inaccurate, state Delagate Jon Cardin from Baltimore County has called for manufacturers to be fined $1,000 for each ticket issued in error. Additionally, he wants to require that municipalities using these cameras submit regular audits of the cameras to prove they are working correctly. Visit The Consumerist for full article

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As we’ve seen in previous stories, cameras intended to catch speeders and red-light violators are not perfect, and now a state lawmaker in Maryland believes that the makers of these devices need to be held financially accountable for each instance in which a driver is incorrectly ticketed.

Following a report by the Baltimore Sun showing that five of that city’s 83 speed cameras were inaccurate, state Delagate Jon Cardin from Baltimore County has called for manufacturers to be fined $1,000 for each ticket issued in error.

Additionally, he wants to require that municipalities using these cameras submit regular audits of the cameras to prove they are working correctly.
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bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,810 Points:640,325 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:34:12 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse Good luck.
Mr1lung All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:811 Points:164,150 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:01:57 PM Ignore Mr1lung Report Abuse i agree
Mariuxus Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,750 Points:1,869,115 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 9:43:01 AM Ignore Mariuxus Report Abuse YES...100% ..
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,068 Points:1,009,455 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 7:03:43 AM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse I agree.
Radar1992 Champion Author Florida Posts:1,315 Points:308,215 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 6:27:45 AM Ignore Radar1992 Report Abuse Taxation without accountability....It is clear fraud and nothing happens except an 'I'm Sorry, for getting caught' but the municipalities just refund the money and should pay each person double the fine they charged them.
danindenver Champion Author Denver Posts:5,475 Points:1,236,430 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:59:09 AM Ignore danindenver Report Abuse Amen
agrico Veteran Author New Orleans Posts:464 Points:502,165 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:48:59 PM Ignore agrico Report Abuse Municipalities should buy the cameras not pay part of each ticket to the manufacturer - wrong incentive
esq262 Champion Author Asheville Posts:2,887 Points:646,315 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:39:11 PM Ignore esq262 Report Abuse They should just get rid of these things.
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,466 Points:810,380 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:38:26 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse excellent idea
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,006 Points:1,186,320 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:30:20 PM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse Good!
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,991 Points:740,650 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:08:03 PM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse We need to do away with traffic cameras
wamster Champion Author Houston Posts:4,243 Points:693,105 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:01:44 PM Ignore wamster Report Abuse If the product you manufacture is defective; yes you should be held accountable.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,475 Points:1,555,575 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:53:39 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Agreed. The traffic camera manufacturers should pay a fine for each error.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,866 Points:1,438,420 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:25:05 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse GT3186 - I hope your scenario becomes true.
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:607,825 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:48:04 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Another loser legislator looking for a penny under every rock. Except, that he just might be on to something. If the manufacturers are fined enough they may no longer want to sell and maintain cameras (that's a plus); and, if the municipalities are faced with expensive audits, they may find the profits dwindle to the point where they no longer want cameras (another plus).
skinsfan125 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,549 Points:280,490 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:25:48 PM Ignore skinsfan125 Report Abuse big brother is watching you!
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,352 Points:1,595,505 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:19:45 PM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Only if every legislator (professional politician) is given the maximum punishment for their massive crimes including traffic cameras.
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,738 Points:1,850,420 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:01:40 PM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse "Traffic Camera Manufacturers Should Be Fined For Each Error" Agreed, and they should pay punitive damages as well.
kag2010 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:5,249 Points:1,018,785 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:44:48 PM Ignore kag2010 Report Abuse Audits of the cameras to prove they are not working correctly.
playtimeCLE Champion Author Cleveland Posts:8,545 Points:1,541,450 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:27:11 PM Ignore playtimeCLE Report Abuse So not only do cities get get ticket payouts, but mistake payouts too. I think the mistake payouts should go to the people who were mistakenly ticketed.
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,730 Points:815,280 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:18:41 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse Money grab. These things are nothing else. They need to go.
RonElp All-Star Author El Paso Posts:763 Points:109,620 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:51:49 PM Ignore RonElp Report Abuse I agree... get rid of the cameras. They are run by 3rd parties who get paid a percentage of the tickets. They have no reason to make them accurate.
LostInNY Champion Author New York Posts:1,706 Points:645,870 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:28:01 PM Ignore LostInNY Report Abuse How's about getting rid of the cameras altogether?? Does not really provide "safety", just revenues!
xgojim All-Star Author Michigan Posts:522 Points:450,130 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:23:53 PM Ignore xgojim Report Abuse How about occasional testing by the authorities who install them in the first place? Seems like someone in the County should be held accountable for this kind of problem rather than the manufacturer. Sounds like a "pass the buck" activity rather than "the buck stops" with the person responsible for their use.
ambers926 Rookie Author Baltimore Posts:5 Points:78,875 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:17:17 PM Ignore ambers926 Report Abuse I'll let you know how my 2 trial dates go for the inaccurate speed traps. I received 1 ticket that state I was going 80mph during rush hour traffic??
jl1rp Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,802 Points:355,420 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:06:18 PM Ignore jl1rp Report Abuse Let's just stop using cameras for fines.
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,576 Points:480,635 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:05:31 PM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse Sounds fair to me.
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,054 Points:659,570 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:42:35 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse Problem is, if they are fined, it will be passed onto everyone else. I can seem them adjusting their cameras to maximize the tickets.
sdslim Champion Author Florida Posts:1,882 Points:1,709,055 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:28:30 PM Ignore sdslim Report Abuse Need more details.
csblesson Champion Author Texas Posts:1,801 Points:350,650 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:21:32 PM Ignore csblesson Report Abuse Sounds like a good idea.
bluetruck54 Champion Author Quad Cities Posts:1,461 Points:440,835 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:03:16 PM Ignore bluetruck54 Report Abuse while the Senators' chest-pounding can be expected, the article fails to state why the camera's were not working correctly, as well as a host of other facts. a camera takes a picture, so what was inaccurate? a sloppy, poorly written article to say the least.
rickybobbycat All-Star Author Macon Posts:561 Points:481,130 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:56:32 PM Ignore rickybobbycat Report Abuse Traffic cameras falling out of favor lately.
roadrunnin Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,749 Points:563,410 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:55:44 PM Ignore roadrunnin Report Abuse great idea, but most people don't even try to fight the ticket, and most municipalities don't allow any dispute because the "camera doesn't lie" RIGHT?
ObieDog Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,956 Points:849,845 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:49:57 PM Ignore ObieDog Report Abuse Seems like a fine idea !!
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,138 Points:2,369,420 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:44:59 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse actually i think its the states problem for putting them out knowing full well that there where problems like this
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,104 Points:682,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:38:49 PM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Well someone should pay. Do away with the cameras and the errors will follow. Put boots on the ground!
Taxrefugee Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,391 Points:385,045 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:29:16 PM Ignore Taxrefugee Report Abuse Better yet, the mayor and each city council member of any city that uses these entrapment devices should spend a day in jail for each error.
djwhit Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,997 Points:1,205,530 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:07:19 PM Ignore djwhit Report Abuse THATS GREAT......GET IT DONE......
heydano67 Champion Author California Posts:1,656 Points:356,385 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:56:43 PM Ignore heydano67 Report Abuse Audits sound like a reasonable fix
Tralp All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:797 Points:188,745 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:54:15 PM Ignore Tralp Report Abuse yea they should be fined and the $1000 goes directly to the one ticketed
hmw10284 Champion Author California Posts:1,127 Points:195,275 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:50:21 PM Ignore hmw10284 Report Abuse Politicians should be fined for each error.
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,172 Points:357,310 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:35:47 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse Misguided logic. Speeding fines are to deter speeding for safety, not revenue enhancement.
EdWoods Veteran Author Maryland Posts:425 Points:63,255 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:28:42 PM Ignore EdWoods Report Abuse Absolutely on Target. Or better yet, just Ban them altogether....
tankumo Veteran Author Vancouver Posts:395 Points:68,720 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:20:31 PM Ignore tankumo Report Abuse Not just that. Cops should be fined for each error.
me2too4c Sophomore Author New York Posts:245 Points:236,835 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:13:28 PM Ignore me2too4c Report Abuse I agree manufactures should be fined and just like radar detectors that cops use these should have to be tested and regular submit to audits! Chances are the manufacture makes more than the goverment on these devices. Granted the goverment will get their hands in the pot to get their share too.