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metrojeep

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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:29:48 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal safety board is recommending that all states require ignition interlock devices for convicted drunk drivers, including first-time offenders.

The five-member National Transportation Safety Board said the devices are currently the best available solution to reducing drunk driving deaths, which account for about a third of the nation's 32,000 traffic deaths each year.

In particular, the board cited a new study by its staff that found some 360 people a year are killed in wrong-way driving crashes on high-speed highways. The study concluded that 69 percent of wrong-way drivers had blood alcohol levels above the legal limit of .08.


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wldhrs1
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:58:12 AM

Go for it
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bston
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:14:37 AM

...unless they end up driving a vehicle that isn't theirs!
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:03:40 AM

Watch the ACLU get involved.
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:06:25 PM

A few thoughts arise after reading the article and the comments below.

1st – We do not need Big Brother regulating the lives of US citizens to any greater degree than is done today so we would oppose this agenda.

2nd - The governmental entities who have the right to regulate driving in the US are the states not the Federal or city or county governments.

3rd - If we ever crack down to this extent on DWI offenses, then we should also crack down just as hard on non-hands free use of mobile communications devices such as cell phones, tablets, lap tops, texting, etcetera.

4th - If we ever crack down to this extent on DWI offenses, then we should also crack down just as hard on drivers caught driving under the influence of any type of drug be the drug prescribed or illegal if the drivers is as impaired as a driver who qualifies as having a blood alcohol level greater than .08.

5th - Ignition interlock devices should be required for convicted habitual DWI drivers but not for non-habitual DWI drivers. Now the problem is how is the term “convicted habitual DWI driver“ to be defined?
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NedW
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 3:58:38 PM

And, texters?
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nsdp
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:13:09 PM

Better yet stop cell phones from transferring from one tower to the next. Distracted driving causes more accidents now according to NHTSA than DWI. Fatalities last year were the lowest since the year I was born 1949.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:03:10 PM

Makes sense because legally driving is considered a priviledge so once you break a law this seems a viable option to regain the privledge. Put it to the voters to decide. They could give the offender the option for this prior to court ruling/fines.

[Edited by: WanderDan at 12/12/2012 1:06:56 PM EST]
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pbalmeo
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:42:19 AM

They will always try to circumvent the system. But I am optimistic on this one. We will see.
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:06:12 AM

"Not Newsworthy"
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danindenver
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:51:17 AM

Even better:
You could require all drivers to attach electrodes to their private parts and ZAP 'em when they misbehave.

Why not?
We have the technology.
Why not?

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carranco
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:42:52 PM

It is up to the states to decide.
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:17:51 PM

Good measure.
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alterman156
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:55:46 PM

Excellent idea to require ignition locks for all drunk drivers.
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sillywagon
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:34:26 PM

Drunk drivers need to be punished. It seems they tend to be lightly punished unless they cause a fatal accident. Which is too late.

Shouldn't the "privilege" of driving be denied to drunk drivers. What does someone have to do to lose the privilege of driving a vehicle?

[Edited by: sillywagon at 12/11/2012 9:37:22 PM EST]
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BuckyTJones
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:18:33 PM


I don't think you could ever be too harsh on drunk driving. Some people have to be hit over the head, hard and several times before one gets the point across.
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:00:00 PM

Most drunks have their license revoked, so there not even suppose to drive a car. Put an ignition lock on their car and they will just steal a ride. Hey, their not suppose to drive anyway, so what difference does it make if they aren't suppose to drive their own car or not suppose to drive someone else's car.
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PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:26:01 PM

Any step needed to keep a drunk driver off the road.
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kag2010
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:50:43 PM

Good solution to reducing drunk driving deaths.
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dh0770
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:47:47 PM

Put a kill the cellphone function in....and I mean really kill the phone if anyone tries using it while the vehicle is in motion.
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Radar1992
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:24:45 PM

The NTSB has no regulatory authority....only the Dept of Transportation can do this....

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Lugi1967
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:29 PM

It probabaly stops most
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doctorindyj
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:39:54 PM

I can tell you these things really work. Not. They've caught several people asking(or paying) others to blow into the device for them. One genius actually got busted letting his 8 year old kid blow into the device for him. Forcing this on people nationally is not the answer.
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playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:35:10 PM

Why don't we just take away everyones freedom and force them to do the right things in every possible situation....
You all sound like a bunch of communists.
How about some more positive options to drinking & driving instead of making everyone else out to be some kind of animal that is due no respect.
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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:29:11 PM

The use of a phone regardless of texting or just talking on it.
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RonElp
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:01:51 PM

Good idea... now they need a texting lock and a "putting on makeup" lock and I'll feel safe on the road.
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BennoBlue
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:38:01 PM

Alex395 says:
"Smart, 3% of licensed drivers have a DUI conviction so let's make the other 97% pay too. Sounds like the pending class warfare system on taxes."

This is only suggesting the devices go into the vehicles of people who have a DUI, not all vehicles, so why would the other 97% pay? Or are you talking about the price of the device itself? While I'd happily pay my share of the devices for the 3% to protect the lives of my family, it'd make better sense for the expense of the device to be out of the pocket of the persons convicted of DUI.bluetruck54 says:
"and how do you explain the local drunk arrested for the 7th time????
wonderful idea, but unrealistic in the real world.

maybe the penalty should be servere and ENFORCED!"

I think the point here is that there needs to be something like this to prevent people from getting repeated DUI convictions. Though I agree with severe penalties, it would be even better to keep the DUI from occurring in the first place, particularly since it seems the worst damage often goes to the people hit by the drunk driver -- no amount of penalties make up for the death of a loved one. However, if a device like this is installed *and* paid for by the person with the DUI, it can be both a preventative *and* (because of the cost) help make for a more severe penalty.

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07skydriver
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:34:56 PM

Yup.!
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LostInNY
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:30:16 PM

Unfortunately, there will always be someone who will defeat any systems put in place...
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xgojim
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:27:35 PM

Not a lot of detail here but how about a ten year sentence to use one of these things if someone is caught via DUI? The second time it should be a lifetime sentence. Get these people off the road and no temptation whatsoever for the first time.
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bluetruck54
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:08:42 PM

and how do you explain the local drunk arrested for the 7th time????
wonderful idea, but unrealistic in the real world.

maybe the penalty should be servere and ENFORCED!
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alex395
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:48:13 PM

Smart, 3% of licensed drivers have a DUI conviction so let's make the other 97% pay too. Sounds like the pending class warfare system on taxes.
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bisonjim
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:46:42 PM

Keep drunks off the roads. We also need to disable phones from texting capability when the engine is running.
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Taxrefugee
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:30:13 PM

Don't some states already do this?
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fourdezzzz
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:03:44 PM

Much needed!
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bullfrog42
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:00:13 PM

Sounds good to me.Drunks should be stopped from driving and killing people anyway we can.Let them stay home and beat their wife.
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EdWoods
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:42:20 PM

Why don't we just keep them off the roads by whatever means necessary, including incarceration.....
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qwerty17
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:32:13 PM

they should not be in every car like seat belts. i'm in & out of my car 30-50 x a day. don't punish me & others like me for others misdeeds.
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me2too4c
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:23:06 PM

all cars should have them like seat belts because the current ignition interlock devices are more dangerous than people on cell phones because the all require "rolling retest" which means the operator has less than 3 minutes to perform the same test they did to start the car !! Granted it may be smart to avoid getting sober person to start their car but the operator needs to take their eyes off the road to find device, concentrate on taking the test before the time expires. The test are random between 5 and 45 minutes!

[Edited by: me2too4c at 12/11/2012 2:24:39 PM EST]
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GasFreeLeaf
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:08:28 PM

Another bright idea from "big brother"?

On the positive side just put them on all of the cars, like seat belts, and see how many lives are saved, especially on high school grad night.

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Discovery02
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:41:54 PM

"Blow-n-Go" sounds like it would be a good idea as long as it doesn't cost even more money on a new car.
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1brendle
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:38:40 PM

DITTO:DeserTBoB
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:19:37 PM

We need "blow 'n go" cars that can detect both alcohol and pot usage.
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:12:08 PM

Absolutely.
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:52:07 PM

What a GREAT idea!
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:49:47 PM

From the article: "Seventeen states already have laws requiring use of the device by all convicted drunk drivers."

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The state level is where this regulation belongs and is not a function of the Federal government which Skunk63 alluded to @ Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:32:40 PM.

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humblepie
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:43:32 PM

im all for it
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:40:01 PM

Include instant blood testing for prescription/illegal drug use as well.
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slowpoke
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:38:06 PM

Good idea. For all the families of those killed by drunks on highways across the country and all those who may be saved by such an initiative, this will be a godsend.
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Rockyguitar
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:36:17 PM

Hope they come up with a system other than breath analysis.
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Skunk63
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:32:40 PM

Isn't this a local issue? Since when is drunk driving a federal offense?
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