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metrojeep Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,277 Points:438,545 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:29:48 PM Ignore metrojeep Report Abuse WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal safety board is recommending that all states require ignition interlock devices for convicted drunk drivers, including first-time offenders. The five-member National Transportation Safety Board said the devices are currently the best available solution to reducing drunk driving deaths, which account for about a third of the nation's 32,000 traffic deaths each year. In particular, the board cited a new study by its staff that found some 360 people a year are killed in wrong-way driving crashes on high-speed highways. The study concluded that 69 percent of wrong-way drivers had blood alcohol levels above the legal limit of .08. Visit AP for full article

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal safety board is recommending that all states require ignition interlock devices for convicted drunk drivers, including first-time offenders.

The five-member National Transportation Safety Board said the devices are currently the best available solution to reducing drunk driving deaths, which account for about a third of the nation's 32,000 traffic deaths each year.

In particular, the board cited a new study by its staff that found some 360 people a year are killed in wrong-way driving crashes on high-speed highways. The study concluded that 69 percent of wrong-way drivers had blood alcohol levels above the legal limit of .08.

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wldhrs1 All-Star Author Alabama Posts:748 Points:152,080 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:58:12 AM Ignore wldhrs1 Report Abuse Go for it
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,830 Points:644,975 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:14:37 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse ...unless they end up driving a vehicle that isn't theirs!
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,483 Points:665,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:03:40 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Watch the ACLU get involved.
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,551 Points:769,545 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:06:25 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse A few thoughts arise after reading the article and the comments below. 1st – We do not need Big Brother regulating the lives of US citizens to any greater degree than is done today so we would oppose this agenda. 2nd - The governmental entities who have the right to regulate driving in the US are the states not the Federal or city or county governments. 3rd - If we ever crack down to this extent on DWI offenses, then we should also crack down just as hard on non-hands free use of mobile communications devices such as cell phones, tablets, lap tops, texting, etcetera. 4th - If we ever crack down to this extent on DWI offenses, then we should also crack down just as hard on drivers caught driving under the influence of any type of drug be the drug prescribed or illegal if the drivers is as impaired as a driver who qualifies as having a blood alcohol level greater than .08. 5th - Ignition interlock devices should be required for convicted habitual DWI drivers but not for non-habitual DWI drivers. Now the problem is how is the term “convicted habitual DWI driver“ to be defined?
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,630 Points:1,145,170 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 3:58:38 PM Ignore NedW Report Abuse And, texters?
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,340 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:13:09 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Better yet stop cell phones from transferring from one tower to the next. Distracted driving causes more accidents now according to NHTSA than DWI. Fatalities last year were the lowest since the year I was born 1949.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:145,960 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:03:10 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse Makes sense because legally driving is considered a priviledge so once you break a law this seems a viable option to regain the privledge. Put it to the voters to decide. They could give the offender the option for this prior to court ruling/fines. [Edited by: WanderDan at 12/12/2012 1:06:56 PM EST]
pbalmeo All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:895 Points:189,815 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:42:19 AM Ignore pbalmeo Report Abuse They will always try to circumvent the system. But I am optimistic on this one. We will see.
jeffbone Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,366 Points:401,810 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 10:06:12 AM Ignore jeffbone Report Abuse "Not Newsworthy"
danindenver Champion Author Denver Posts:5,500 Points:1,241,480 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 1:51:17 AM Ignore danindenver Report Abuse Even better: You could require all drivers to attach electrodes to their private parts and ZAP 'em when they misbehave. Why not? We have the technology. Why not?
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:269,765 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:42:52 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse It is up to the states to decide.
andy1024 Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,712 Points:450,200 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:17:51 PM Ignore andy1024 Report Abuse Good measure.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,500 Points:1,560,450 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:55:46 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Excellent idea to require ignition locks for all drunk drivers.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,907 Points:1,443,295 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:34:26 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Drunk drivers need to be punished. It seems they tend to be lightly punished unless they cause a fatal accident. Which is too late. Shouldn't the "privilege" of driving be denied to drunk drivers. What does someone have to do to lose the privilege of driving a vehicle? [Edited by: sillywagon at 12/11/2012 9:37:22 PM EST]
BuckyTJones Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,932 Points:967,950 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:18:33 PM Ignore BuckyTJones Report Abuse I don't think you could ever be too harsh on drunk driving. Some people have to be hit over the head, hard and several times before one gets the point across.
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:612,200 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:00:00 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Most drunks have their license revoked, so there not even suppose to drive a car. Put an ignition lock on their car and they will just steal a ride. Hey, their not suppose to drive anyway, so what difference does it make if they aren't suppose to drive their own car or not suppose to drive someone else's car.
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,864,280 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:26:01 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Any step needed to keep a drunk driver off the road.
kag2010 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:5,274 Points:1,023,660 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:50:43 PM Ignore kag2010 Report Abuse Good solution to reducing drunk driving deaths.
dh0770 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,987 Points:672,460 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:47:47 PM Ignore dh0770 Report Abuse Put a kill the cellphone function in....and I mean really kill the phone if anyone tries using it while the vehicle is in motion.
Radar1992 Champion Author Florida Posts:1,340 Points:313,090 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:24:45 PM Ignore Radar1992 Report Abuse The NTSB has no regulatory authority....only the Dept of Transportation can do this....
Lugi1967 Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,803 Points:1,005,170 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:29 PM Ignore Lugi1967 Report Abuse It probabaly stops most
doctorindyj Champion Author Santa Fe Posts:3,463 Points:842,510 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:39:54 PM Ignore doctorindyj Report Abuse I can tell you these things really work. Not. They've caught several people asking(or paying) others to blow into the device for them. One genius actually got busted letting his 8 year old kid blow into the device for him. Forcing this on people nationally is not the answer.
playtimeCLE Champion Author Cleveland Posts:8,575 Points:1,547,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:35:10 PM Ignore playtimeCLE Report Abuse Why don't we just take away everyones freedom and force them to do the right things in every possible situation.... You all sound like a bunch of communists. How about some more positive options to drinking & driving instead of making everyone else out to be some kind of animal that is due no respect.
Straitliner Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,520 Points:240,450 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:29:11 PM Ignore Straitliner Report Abuse The use of a phone regardless of texting or just talking on it.
RonElp All-Star Author El Paso Posts:763 Points:109,620 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:01:51 PM Ignore RonElp Report Abuse Good idea... now they need a texting lock and a "putting on makeup" lock and I'll feel safe on the road.
BennoBlue Champion Author Virginia Posts:37,139 Points:1,467,670 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:38:01 PM Ignore BennoBlue Report Abuse Alex395 says: "Smart, 3% of licensed drivers have a DUI conviction so let's make the other 97% pay too. Sounds like the pending class warfare system on taxes." This is only suggesting the devices go into the vehicles of people who have a DUI, not all vehicles, so why would the other 97% pay? Or are you talking about the price of the device itself? While I'd happily pay my share of the devices for the 3% to protect the lives of my family, it'd make better sense for the expense of the device to be out of the pocket of the persons convicted of DUI.bluetruck54 says: "and how do you explain the local drunk arrested for the 7th time???? wonderful idea, but unrealistic in the real world. maybe the penalty should be servere and ENFORCED!" I think the point here is that there needs to be something like this to prevent people from getting repeated DUI convictions. Though I agree with severe penalties, it would be even better to keep the DUI from occurring in the first place, particularly since it seems the worst damage often goes to the people hit by the drunk driver -- no amount of penalties make up for the death of a loved one. However, if a device like this is installed and paid for by the person with the DUI, it can be both a preventative and (because of the cost) help make for a more severe penalty.
07skydriver Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,275 Points:986,010 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:34:56 PM Ignore 07skydriver Report Abuse Yup.!
LostInNY Champion Author New York Posts:1,731 Points:650,745 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:30:16 PM Ignore LostInNY Report Abuse Unfortunately, there will always be someone who will defeat any systems put in place...
xgojim All-Star Author Michigan Posts:524 Points:454,020 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:27:35 PM Ignore xgojim Report Abuse Not a lot of detail here but how about a ten year sentence to use one of these things if someone is caught via DUI? The second time it should be a lifetime sentence. Get these people off the road and no temptation whatsoever for the first time.
bluetruck54 Champion Author Quad Cities Posts:1,482 Points:444,735 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:08:42 PM Ignore bluetruck54 Report Abuse and how do you explain the local drunk arrested for the 7th time???? wonderful idea, but unrealistic in the real world. maybe the penalty should be servere and ENFORCED!
alex395 Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,055 Points:277,810 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:48:13 PM Ignore alex395 Report Abuse Smart, 3% of licensed drivers have a DUI conviction so let's make the other 97% pay too. Sounds like the pending class warfare system on taxes.
bisonjim Champion Author Florida Posts:1,070 Points:209,155 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:46:42 PM Ignore bisonjim Report Abuse Keep drunks off the roads. We also need to disable phones from texting capability when the engine is running.
Taxrefugee Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,418 Points:389,920 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:30:13 PM Ignore Taxrefugee Report Abuse Don't some states already do this?
fourdezzzz Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:313 Points:398,810 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:03:44 PM Ignore fourdezzzz Report Abuse Much needed!
bullfrog42 All-Star Author Texas Posts:847 Points:171,085 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:00:13 PM Ignore bullfrog42 Report Abuse Sounds good to me.Drunks should be stopped from driving and killing people anyway we can.Let them stay home and beat their wife.
EdWoods Veteran Author Maryland Posts:432 Points:65,370 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:42:20 PM Ignore EdWoods Report Abuse Why don't we just keep them off the roads by whatever means necessary, including incarceration.....
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,120,375 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:32:13 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse they should not be in every car like seat belts. i'm in & out of my car 30-50 x a day. don't punish me & others like me for others misdeeds.
me2too4c Veteran Author New York Posts:255 Points:240,385 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:23:06 PM Ignore me2too4c Report Abuse all cars should have them like seat belts because the current ignition interlock devices are more dangerous than people on cell phones because the all require "rolling retest" which means the operator has less than 3 minutes to perform the same test they did to start the car !! Granted it may be smart to avoid getting sober person to start their car but the operator needs to take their eyes off the road to find device, concentrate on taking the test before the time expires. The test are random between 5 and 45 minutes! [Edited by: me2too4c at 12/11/2012 2:24:39 PM EST]
GasFreeLeaf Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,250 Points:476,610 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:08:28 PM Ignore GasFreeLeaf Report Abuse Another bright idea from "big brother"? On the positive side just put them on all of the cars, like seat belts, and see how many lives are saved, especially on high school grad night.
Discovery02 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,590 Points:313,590 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:41:54 PM Ignore Discovery02 Report Abuse "Blow-n-Go" sounds like it would be a good idea as long as it doesn't cost even more money on a new car.
1brendle Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,789 Points:133,675 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:38:40 PM Ignore 1brendle Report Abuse DITTO:DeserTBoB
DeserTBoB Champion Author California Posts:1,349 Points:203,125 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:19:37 PM Ignore DeserTBoB Report Abuse We need "blow 'n go" cars that can detect both alcohol and pot usage.
tazintally Sophomore Author Tallahassee Posts:194 Points:69,810 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:12:08 PM Ignore tazintally Report Abuse Absolutely.
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,195 Points:1,120,565 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:52:07 PM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse What a GREAT idea!
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,071 Points:795,710 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:49:47 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse From the article: "Seventeen states already have laws requiring use of the device by all convicted drunk drivers." ================================================================ The state level is where this regulation belongs and is not a function of the Federal government which Skunk63 alluded to @ Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:32:40 PM.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,333 Points:2,374,295 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:43:32 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse im all for it
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,964 Points:1,019,545 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:40:01 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Include instant blood testing for prescription/illegal drug use as well.
slowpoke Veteran Author Virginia Posts:277 Points:101,880 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:38:06 PM Ignore slowpoke Report Abuse Good idea. For all the families of those killed by drunks on highways across the country and all those who may be saved by such an initiative, this will be a godsend.
Rockyguitar Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,577 Points:1,205,495 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:36:17 PM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Hope they come up with a system other than breath analysis.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,567 Points:561,220 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:32:40 PM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Isn't this a local issue? Since when is drunk driving a federal offense?