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Ply440GTX All-Star Author Texas Posts:949 Points:309,730 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:45:26 PM Ignore Ply440GTX Report Abuse A group of Chrysler worker who were terminated after being filmed drinking on their lunch break have been reinstated over Chrysler’s objections. Thirteen workers lost their jobs over the September 2010 incident that was caught on videotape by the Fox News station in Detroit. Following an investigation, the workers were fired in accordance with Chrysler policy. The workers filed grievances with the United Auto Workers union and the matter went to arbitration where Chrysler lost its case. Scott Garberding, Senior Vice President of Manufacturing, posted a corporate response to the decision and action on the Chrysler blog. Excepts have been posted in various venues, but Allpar is presenting it in its entirety. We’ve seen a fair bit of social media discussion regarding the return to Visit by Bill Cawthon for full article

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A group of Chrysler worker who were terminated after being filmed drinking on their lunch break have been reinstated over Chrysler’s objections.

Thirteen workers lost their jobs over the September 2010 incident that was caught on videotape by the Fox News station in Detroit.

Following an investigation, the workers were fired in accordance with Chrysler policy. The workers filed grievances with the United Auto Workers union and the matter went to arbitration where Chrysler lost its case.

Scott Garberding, Senior Vice President of Manufacturing, posted a corporate response to the decision and action on the Chrysler blog. Excepts have been posted in various venues, but Allpar is presenting it in its entirety.

We’ve seen a fair bit of social media discussion regarding the return to
Visit by Bill Cawthon for full article

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,203,580 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:05:34 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Many companies require in their P&P's alcohol treatment for workers found drinking on the job, prior to dismissal. Dismissal only if they fail their treatment.
pbalmeo All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:875 Points:185,165 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:44:40 AM Ignore pbalmeo Report Abuse Reading this again just angers me.
TruthMatters Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,515 Points:532,260 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:03:02 AM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse If they were found guilty drinking on the job, they should be terminated. This is what happens when unions run amock! This country is going down the toilet and we've got no one to blame except ourselves.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,810 Points:640,325 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:53:38 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse They can get out of just about anything nowadays!
bwatchingu Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,735 Points:598,795 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:18:51 PM Ignore bwatchingu Report Abuse This is why unions get a bad reputation,brought by their own actions.
ObieDog Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,956 Points:849,845 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:54:16 PM Ignore ObieDog Report Abuse What a world!!
bisonjim Champion Author Florida Posts:1,045 Points:204,280 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:51:33 PM Ignore bisonjim Report Abuse There must be some type of appeals process. What kind of proof is needed? They have those drunk & stoned employees on video!
FlatulenceOdor Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:215 Points:205,545 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:56:39 PM Ignore FlatulenceOdor Report Abuse Their own co-workers ratted them out to the media/reporter that broke the story. Co-workers didn't approve them working at the company. [Edited by: FlatulenceOdor at 12/11/2012 2:58:11 PM EST]
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,644 Points:1,115,930 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:42:56 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse drinking on the job is a firable offense. these guys gotta go. unions-time to look in the mirror.
schvanda63 Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,308 Points:262,855 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:24:04 PM Ignore schvanda63 Report Abuse And here in Lansing we have thousands of UAW members opposing the Right To Work law that the governor is signing. They must be afraid that they will lose their safety net.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,540 Points:1,785,400 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:45:46 AM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Buy a Chrysler made by drunk, stoned workers.
JDchefF Champion Author Lancaster Posts:1,035 Points:226,320 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:18:03 AM Ignore JDchefF Report Abuse If it is in the rules that there is no drinking or drugs allowed, then they should be fired and not recourse allowed from the unions. Unions have to much power and abuse it. Will not buy any car from that factory and not sure if I would buy from Chrysler because of this.
vjs3 Champion Author Denver Posts:2,531 Points:647,965 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:40:39 AM Ignore vjs3 Report Abuse Very surprised the workers were reinstated considering the rules & policies. Does this mean that they'll reinstated ALL workers that were fired for the same reason?
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,337 Points:162,700 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:16:41 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Lets party!
pbalmeo All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:875 Points:185,165 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:15:01 AM Ignore pbalmeo Report Abuse Omg....
2011370Z Champion Author Phoenix Posts:5,924 Points:681,130 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:05:37 AM Ignore 2011370Z Report Abuse Unions have too much power. Thanks for reinforcing them Nobama. [Edited by: 2011370Z at 12/11/2012 10:06:33 AM EST]
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,069 Points:330,795 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:58:13 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse the rules were no drugs or alcohol and they broke the rules. THEY SHOULD BE FIRED!
bbchevy Veteran Author Ontario Posts:345 Points:307,290 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:04:40 AM Ignore bbchevy Report Abuse Another reason to abolish unions.
zwsn01 All-Star Author Alabama Posts:691 Points:438,400 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:53:33 AM Ignore zwsn01 Report Abuse Your kids are in the back seat of the cars that these guys put together.
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,327 Points:742,750 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:08:58 AM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse Ridiculous
SUNOIL Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,230 Points:1,923,080 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:55:24 AM Ignore SUNOIL Report Abuse Who were the arbitrators
BigRedVTX All-Star Author Georgia Posts:856 Points:500,130 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:47:06 AM Ignore BigRedVTX Report Abuse And we wonder why our domestic vehicle quality is somewhat in question? Don't forget to look for the union label.
dandvicb Champion Author Bridgeport Posts:1,222 Points:1,075,005 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:45:02 AM Ignore dandvicb Report Abuse Thanks to the union, these clowns were brought back......... idiots!!
zoomer20 Sophomore Author Indiana Posts:231 Points:262,150 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:41:03 AM Ignore zoomer20 Report Abuse Who cares. I heard these losers were all janitors anyway and the only thing they drive is a broom. Besides, take a closer look at lunch time in nice restaurants and see who knocking back a few cocktails and then Driving back to the office. Why don't Fox stalk and spy on them as well...hypocrites.
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,068 Points:1,009,455 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:36:11 AM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse Would not buy a Chrysler build by pot smoking workers.
gfox4810 Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,176 Points:393,800 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:24:29 AM Ignore gfox4810 Report Abuse Unbelievable!
jeffbone Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,356 Points:398,985 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:22:50 AM Ignore jeffbone Report Abuse "Not Newsworthy"
Grizdad Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:5,520 Points:782,225 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:09:36 AM Ignore Grizdad Report Abuse If I recall, they were doing weed too. Someone got paid off here...
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,306 Points:651,490 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:57 AM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse Right-to-work coming to a state near you..............
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:14,828 Points:1,958,885 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:06 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse The abuse of the Unions continues to this day. As michigan is becoming a right to work State, they had to close 2 school districts so that the teachers could go to lansing and protest. What a sad state of affairs. And those Chrysler workers are screw ups...they will be in trouble again.
MImusicman Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,863 Points:405,725 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:55:29 AM Ignore MImusicman Report Abuse This is what is wrong with unions...supporting stupid and reckless behavior
SUPERSTEVIEO Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,523 Points:787,115 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:36:31 AM Ignore SUPERSTEVIEO Report Abuse in my mind... drinking on the job where equipment use is mandatory, should be sufficient reason for dismissal!!!! the arbitrator was probably ässisted"in his decision for sure!!! this is unacceptable.
wamster Champion Author Houston Posts:4,243 Points:693,105 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:28:17 AM Ignore wamster Report Abuse This is outrageous. I saw the story on the news as well as the film footage of the men smoking and drinking from the bottles. Chrysler needs to perform frequent drug testing in order to have legal ammunition for future incidences.
pilotmass Champion Author Boston Posts:1,813 Points:500,360 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:15:26 AM Ignore pilotmass Report Abuse Can't believe this has gone on for two years. Bet they have different jobs now.
BIGOILEATURCRUD Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,752 Points:1,376,550 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:11:54 AM Ignore BIGOILEATURCRUD Report Abuse Has anyone seen Reporter Rob Wolchek?
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,730 Points:815,280 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:43:04 AM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse The union needs to go. The terminated workers need to remain gone. Chrysler made the right decision in the first place.
APlus Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,908 Points:989,495 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:40:22 AM Ignore APlus Report Abuse OK
SBlouch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,723 Points:1,857,375 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:39:08 AM Ignore SBlouch Report Abuse The workers should have stayed fired and the United Auto Workers Union and arbitration ruling was wrong. So now if a worker is injured after drinking on their lunch break gets hurt Chrysler must pay for their hospital care, rehab, and time off for sick leave.
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,599 Points:1,139,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:53:18 AM Ignore NedW Report Abuse Thank you for the article, Ply440GTX.
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,247 Points:1,358,540 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:49:39 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse What a joke. Finding good help is very tough in today's world.
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,087 Points:2,346,655 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:40:07 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse I can understand why the arbitrator gave the jobs back. There was no physical evidence to support the claim made by the TV station. I can understand that Chrysler did what they thought was best for their image when these bums were fired. The fact that they got their jobs back and that there was no physical evidence does not mean that they are innocent. It means that they played the system and won. I hope that they did not get back pay for the time that they were fired. I support Chrysler for their action even if they had to eat it.
Luckylindy Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,504 Points:1,125,120 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:08:29 AM Ignore Luckylindy Report Abuse Right to work law should solve that.
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,411 Points:1,094,245 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:52:33 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse Lets see how many beers while having a sandwich you could drink in your half hour lunch if you leave and have to return to your job site? This was way, way over blown. Why didn't Fox track executives that take a least an hour for lunch and have their 3 martini lunch. Fox doesn't want to touch that one. Hypocrits.
No1ConMan Champion Author Memphis Posts:1,005 Points:212,240 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:42:01 AM Ignore No1ConMan Report Abuse Reaganize every one of them. Unions are ruining this country!
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:818 Points:169,655 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:30:20 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Lack of EVIDENCE?
leemun Champion Author Utah Posts:5,520 Points:1,037,365 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:12:14 AM Ignore leemun Report Abuse Such corruption. Unions outlived their usefulness a long time ago, and now all they do is cause problems for anyone they touch.
rcornel All-Star Author San Diego Posts:714 Points:226,195 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:01:56 AM Ignore rcornel Report Abuse Ok
wldhrs1 All-Star Author Alabama Posts:748 Points:152,080 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:31:44 AM Ignore wldhrs1 Report Abuse What were they thinking?
LQQKGAS Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,663 Points:1,194,145 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:24:44 AM Ignore LQQKGAS Report Abuse How could an arbitrator possibly come to the conclusion that this kind of unsafe conduct is worthy of re-hire?
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,756 Points:1,862,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:20:25 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse Shut down the plant and build a new one in South Carolina !!!