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Ply440GTX

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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:45:26 PM

A group of Chrysler worker who were terminated after being filmed drinking on their lunch break have been reinstated over Chrysler’s objections.

Thirteen workers lost their jobs over the September 2010 incident that was caught on videotape by the Fox News station in Detroit.

Following an investigation, the workers were fired in accordance with Chrysler policy. The workers filed grievances with the United Auto Workers union and the matter went to arbitration where Chrysler lost its case.

Scott Garberding, Senior Vice President of Manufacturing, posted a corporate response to the decision and action on the Chrysler blog. Excepts have been posted in various venues, but Allpar is presenting it in its entirety.

We’ve seen a fair bit of social media discussion regarding the return to
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:05:34 PM


Many companies require in their P&P's alcohol treatment for workers found drinking on the job, prior to dismissal. Dismissal only if they fail their treatment.
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pbalmeo
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 11:44:40 AM

Reading this again just angers me.
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TruthMatters
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:03:02 AM

If they were found guilty drinking on the job, they should be terminated. This is what happens when unions run amock! This country is going down the toilet and we've got no one to blame except ourselves.
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bston
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:53:38 PM

They can get out of just about anything nowadays!
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bwatchingu
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:18:51 PM

This is why unions get a bad reputation,brought by their own actions.
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ObieDog
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:54:16 PM

What a world!!
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bisonjim
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:51:33 PM

There must be some type of appeals process. What kind of proof is needed? They have those drunk & stoned employees on video!
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FlatulenceOdor
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:56:39 PM

Their own co-workers ratted them out to the media/reporter that broke the story. Co-workers didn't approve them working at the company.

[Edited by: FlatulenceOdor at 12/11/2012 2:58:11 PM EST]
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qwerty17
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:42:56 PM

drinking on the job is a firable offense. these guys gotta go.
unions-time to look in the mirror.
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schvanda63
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:24:04 PM

And here in Lansing we have thousands of UAW members opposing the Right To Work law that the governor is signing. They must be afraid that they will lose their safety net.
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Night Owl
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:45:46 AM

Buy a Chrysler made by drunk, stoned workers.
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JDchefF
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:18:03 AM

If it is in the rules that there is no drinking or drugs allowed, then they should be fired and not recourse allowed from the unions.

Unions have to much power and abuse it. Will not buy any car from that factory and not sure if I would buy from Chrysler because of this.
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vjs3
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:40:39 AM

Very surprised the workers were reinstated considering the rules & policies. Does this mean that they'll reinstated ALL workers that were fired for the same reason?
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:16:41 AM

Lets party!
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pbalmeo
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:15:01 AM

Omg....
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2011370Z
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 10:05:37 AM

Unions have too much power. Thanks for reinforcing them Nobama.

[Edited by: 2011370Z at 12/11/2012 10:06:33 AM EST]
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eschroth442
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:58:13 AM

the rules were no drugs or alcohol and they broke the rules. THEY SHOULD BE FIRED!
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bbchevy
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:04:40 AM

Another reason to abolish unions.
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zwsn01
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:53:33 AM

Your kids are in the back seat of the cars that these guys put together.
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el_fr
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:08:58 AM

Ridiculous
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SUNOIL
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:55:24 AM

Who were the arbitrators
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BigRedVTX
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:47:06 AM

And we wonder why our domestic vehicle quality is somewhat in question?
Don't forget to look for the union label.
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dandvicb
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:45:02 AM

Thanks to the union, these clowns were brought back......... idiots!!
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zoomer20
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:41:03 AM

Who cares. I heard these losers were all janitors anyway and the only thing they drive is a broom. Besides, take a closer look at lunch time in nice restaurants and see who knocking back a few cocktails and then Driving back to the office. Why don't Fox stalk and spy on them as well...hypocrites.
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ClarkSC
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:36:11 AM

Would not buy a Chrysler build by pot smoking workers.
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gfox4810
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:24:29 AM

Unbelievable!
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:22:50 AM

"Not Newsworthy"
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Grizdad
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:09:36 AM

If I recall, they were doing weed too.

Someone got paid off here...
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:57 AM

Right-to-work coming to a state near you..............
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matman01
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 7:07:06 AM

The abuse of the Unions continues to this day. As michigan is becoming a right to work State, they had to close 2 school districts so that the teachers could go to lansing and protest. What a sad state of affairs. And those Chrysler workers are screw ups...they will be in trouble again.
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MImusicman
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 6:55:29 AM

This is what is wrong with unions...supporting stupid and reckless behavior
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SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:36:31 AM

in my mind... drinking on the job where equipment use is mandatory, should be sufficient reason for dismissal!!!! the arbitrator was probably ässisted"in his decision for sure!!! this is unacceptable.
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wamster
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:28:17 AM

This is outrageous. I saw the story on the news as well as the film footage of the men smoking and drinking from the bottles.

Chrysler needs to perform frequent drug testing in order to have legal ammunition for future incidences.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:15:26 AM

Can't believe this has gone on for two years. Bet they have different jobs now.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 5:11:54 AM

Has anyone seen Reporter Rob Wolchek?
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rbrk02
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:43:04 AM

The union needs to go. The terminated workers need to remain gone. Chrysler made the right decision in the first place.
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APlus
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:40:22 AM

OK
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SBlouch
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:39:08 AM

The workers should have stayed fired and the United Auto Workers Union and arbitration ruling was wrong. So now if a worker is injured after drinking on their lunch break gets hurt Chrysler must pay for their hospital care, rehab, and time off for sick leave.
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NedW
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:53:18 AM

Thank you for the article, Ply440GTX.
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StArrow68
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:49:39 AM

What a joke. Finding good help is very tough in today's world.
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djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:40:07 AM

I can understand why the arbitrator gave the jobs back. There was no physical evidence to support the claim made by the TV station. I can understand that Chrysler did what they thought was best for their image when these bums were fired. The fact that they got their jobs back and that there was no physical evidence does not mean that they are innocent. It means that they played the system and won. I hope that they did not get back pay for the time that they were fired. I support Chrysler for their action even if they had to eat it.
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Luckylindy
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 2:08:29 AM

Right to work law should solve that.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:52:33 AM

Lets see how many beers while having a sandwich you could drink in your half hour lunch if you leave and have to return to your job site? This was way, way over blown. Why didn't Fox track executives that take a least an hour for lunch and have their 3 martini lunch. Fox doesn't want to touch that one. Hypocrits.
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No1ConMan
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:42:01 AM

Reaganize every one of them. Unions are ruining this country!
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endymion
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:30:20 AM

Lack of EVIDENCE?
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leemun
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:12:14 AM

Such corruption. Unions outlived their usefulness a long time ago, and now all they do is cause problems for anyone they touch.
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 1:01:56 AM

Ok
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wldhrs1
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:31:44 AM

What were they thinking?
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LQQKGAS
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:24:44 AM


How could an arbitrator possibly come to the conclusion that this kind of unsafe conduct is worthy of re-hire?
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Amplion
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:20:25 AM

Shut down the plant and build a new one in South Carolina !!!
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