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skb69sa Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,628 Points:739,075 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:53:41 PM Ignore skb69sa Report Abuse Finally, the U.S. energy independence debate has taken a significant step towards a more serious discussion for what this actually means for Washington’s place in the world. As anyone reading my analysis (not just in Forbes, but around the world) will be aware, I’ve been banging the drum rather too loudly on the downside complexities this could bring for America. Being contrarian is a lonely place compared to pervasive group think that constitutes the ‘trans-Atlantic energy debate’ these days, but it never ceases to amaze me once the penny drops, how quickly analytical outliers become mainstream questions everyone asks. Cue Dan Yergin’s FT op-ed over the weekend, ‘US Energy Is Changing The World Again’. Get past all the normal stuff on American oil and gas gains, and Mr. Yergin finally pos Visit Oil Price for full article

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Finally, the U.S. energy independence debate has taken a significant step towards a more serious discussion for what this actually means for Washington’s place in the world. As anyone reading my analysis (not just in Forbes, but around the world) will be aware, I’ve been banging the drum rather too loudly on the downside complexities this could bring for America. Being contrarian is a lonely place compared to pervasive group think that constitutes the ‘trans-Atlantic energy debate’ these days, but it never ceases to amaze me once the penny drops, how quickly analytical outliers become mainstream questions everyone asks. Cue Dan Yergin’s FT op-ed over the weekend, ‘US Energy Is Changing The World Again’. Get past all the normal stuff on American oil and gas gains, and Mr. Yergin finally pos
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iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:65,033 Points:206,750 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 2:08:58 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse interesting perspective
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,955 Points:669,990 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 1:24:25 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse We're becoming broke very quickly!
Discovery02 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,825 Points:338,365 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 2:50:16 PM Ignore Discovery02 Report Abuse Good article full of lots to contemplate.
doctorindyj Champion Author Santa Fe Posts:3,543 Points:865,285 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:42:54 AM Ignore doctorindyj Report Abuse It won't happen until the scammers stop their dine and dash mentality.
MrDeath666 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,765 Points:271,890 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:53:46 AM Ignore MrDeath666 Report Abuse If we were building about 100 nuclear power plants today, I would believe America could become energy independent.
FocusST2 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:8,283 Points:1,407,375 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:29:54 AM Ignore FocusST2 Report Abuse A few years ahead and over the horizon.
7SPEEDY7 Champion Author Flint Posts:1,426 Points:633,900 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:39:23 AM Ignore 7SPEEDY7 Report Abuse Not at this pace
ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,556 Points:403,650 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:02:45 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse when hydrogen fuel cell cars hit the market in force and run on CNG, then the tide will turn and we will really start using less oil.
Yooperheart Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,565 Points:554,725 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:53:54 AM Ignore Yooperheart Report Abuse Not while shipping it all away.
sljbc475 Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,360 Points:900,075 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:33:33 AM Ignore sljbc475 Report Abuse We will still need some foreign assets to sustain long-term.
58salty Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:6,831 Points:657,590 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:26:42 AM Ignore 58salty Report Abuse whatever
gfox4810 Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:1,301 Points:419,475 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:58:17 AM Ignore gfox4810 Report Abuse Sounds like his glass is half empty.
cheap59 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,240 Points:983,270 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:45:00 AM Ignore cheap59 Report Abuse Won't happen.
millerin Champion Author Orlando Posts:2,332 Points:487,315 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:33:37 AM Ignore millerin Report Abuse hmm...
bills299 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,506 Points:932,190 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:13:55 AM Ignore bills299 Report Abuse Really?
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csblesson Champion Author Texas Posts:1,931 Points:379,700 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:44:46 AM Ignore csblesson Report Abuse Somebody please tell the truth.....
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,407 Points:1,770,380 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 3:52:18 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Looks like another top down view to me.
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:10,257 Points:2,377,280 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 3:40:27 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse We will never have energy independence until the day arrives when we have affordable fuel. That will not happen until we have Natural Gas in vehicles with the government supporting it and that means not until obama leaves office. Then there is the fact that Big Oil will continue to sell gas and diesel overseas causing a shortage in America so that they can keep the prices up. That would mean that energy independence would not matter.
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,499 Points:678,890 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 2:26:00 AM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse Energy Independence... another marketing scheme by Big Oil.
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:65,033 Points:206,750 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 2:03:15 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse the reality will be the politics
graceman Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,968 Points:1,158,725 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:03:52 AM Ignore graceman Report Abuse Hopefully we will be able to depend on ourselves very soon.
skb69sa Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,628 Points:739,075 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:02:15 AM Ignore skb69sa Report Abuse I submitted this at 11:01 PM CST (as seen on Windows synchronized time) and the GB server is marking as "Submitted Yesterday". Looks like GB servers are running slow.