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angel4me

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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:53:26 PM

California is pushing hard - but not necessarily as smart as possible - in moving the dial from fossil fuels to solar and wind power. The lack of a cohesive strategy could hit consumers in the wallet. That's the warning from a nonpartisan study group that should grab Sacramento's full attention.

Price, reliability, oversight and government coordination are all concerns that bear watching as this state pushes the energy envelope. By 2020 - eight short years away - a third of California's electricity must come from solar, wind and other renewable sources, up from the present level of about 20 percent.

It's only one clean-and-green goal that the state has assigned itself. Other mandates aim to limit heat-trapping greenhouse gases and reduce tailpipe emissions. The latest addition is a buy
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 11:55:14 PM


Another Editorial....Mods are getting sloppy!
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bston
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 1:23:00 AM

Ridiculous!
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jamofsocal
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:51:37 PM

Really? The most poorly run state in the Nation needs another government agency to provide oversight?

Here is the acid test. If they form this oversight agency to watch over the California government, then after the first year the conclusion better be "shut down California". Otherwise the oversight agency is just a sham.
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 1:00:13 PM

The entire California government, from Governor Moonbeam on down, needs oversight.
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schatzila
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:36:15 PM

I back this goal.
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doctorindyj
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:48:23 AM

"California is pushing hard - but not necessarily as smart as possible -"

They even admit they are not moving smartly but then miss the real point. The media and the church of the green have everyone so cowed they accept everything they are told without a second thought. Therefore they make decisions out of panic or guilt rather than rational thought.
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:48:11 AM

Another second for StArrow68...
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BurntOrange
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:35:49 AM

Opinion piece
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vcsuksu21
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:57:08 AM

Haha, California needs oversight
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:25:30 AM

"Dr. Pepper - In my county of Calif (Riverside) the unemployment rate has been over 12% for FOUR YEARS, peaking at over 15% and dipping once to 11% for a month or two.

Yeah, things in California are just Peachy. So great we just voted to give our irresponsible govt. more of our money to spend with absolutely no oversight or care in the world. You want taxes? Okay, no problem, we're idiots. Here ya go.

Green Energy to "Save the Planet" ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can't even save ourselves. Give me a break." - FluffyDogAttack

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Have no fear FluffyDogAttack, ronelp and NHL say all is well!
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badbonita
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:14:39 AM

Gotta ditto STArrow. Said it so well.
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peabeax55
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:48:17 AM

So. The bureaucracy needs more bureaucracy.
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Luckylindy
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:06:38 AM

Ditto to STArrow.
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MImusicman
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:29:32 AM

what StArrow68 said!!!
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Radar1992
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:26:09 AM

StArrow68...I could not have said it better....

This is all about the making people feel good about themselves not economics...
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mandoid
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 6:18:42 AM

This is the direction the US is going. It is not good.
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dandvicb
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:59:44 AM

and bankrupt solar companies
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yardslave
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:59:27 AM

Sounds painfull ...
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grandpadon28110
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:50:26 AM

ok.
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StArrow68
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 4:46:48 AM

Ah, the inevitable unintended consequences, consumers will pay while the greenies feel good about themselves. The results have been good in the past, it's just too bad they continue to proceed with so little clue of the long term costs.
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pricewar
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 3:58:45 AM

That's the problem with California, they don't do anything the smart way.
I think they experience flash backs from the 1960's... Tripping hard
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Alaydown
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 3:10:00 AM

The headline is an understatement. They are clueless here about the difference between reality and their green fantasy plans.
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 2:05:55 AM

oversight is needed? from the article, sounds like more planning and analysis may be needed first...
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 1:47:45 AM

california needs to be given back to mexico
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RonElp
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 1:10:54 AM

It doesn't matter what others say... this is good for California. Congratulations to a state that is trying to be energy efficient and lower emissions.
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:56:50 AM

Dr. Pepper - In my county of Calif (Riverside) the unemployment rate has been over 12% for FOUR YEARS, peaking at over 15% and dipping once to 11% for a month or two.

Yeah, things in California are just Peachy. So great we just voted to give our irresponsible govt. more of our money to spend with absolutely no oversight or care in the world. You want taxes? Okay, no problem, we're idiots. Here ya go.

Green Energy to "Save the Planet" ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We can't even save ourselves. Give me a break.
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el_fr
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:54:58 AM

Good luck with that
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:36:26 AM

NHL says "California is doing quite well..."
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LOL, since when has a $16,000,000,000 budget shortfall, the highest state income tax in the nation, 10.2% unemployment, a credit rating of A- (that's six levels below AAA) and the lowest in the nation, been considered "doing quite well???
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cheapchickKY
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:24:34 AM

Study group? I remember those from college.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:18:10 AM

Hasn't California slid into the Pacific yet?
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:13:10 AM


California is doing quite well and has always been a technology leader.

When crude oil displaced mineral oil and whale oil, I suppose there was a "cohesive strategy" from the likes of J.P. Morgan et al!

If California state government waited, all residents would still be encased in smog for most of each year and millions more would have expired from lung cancer.
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graceman
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:06:23 AM

They are moving in the right direction.
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