LetemEatCake
Champion Author
Oklahoma City
Posts:5,667
Points:1,229,200
Joined:Mar 2008
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:12:43 PM
Worth repeating:
"Well said Evowner.."Keep this idea in Texas. Next they want a passport to enter Texas at the border. I though this kind of thinking was abandoned when the US Constitution was ratified."
"Nope their thinking hasn't changed in 50 years...and that's the problem!"
|
drpepperTX
Champion Author
Texas
Posts:9,159
Points:778,875
Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 1:01:18 PM
Worth asking; doesn't Oklahoma have a toll road system? LOL.
The truth shall set you free!
|
LetemEatCake
Champion Author
Oklahoma City
Posts:5,667
Points:1,229,200
Joined:Mar 2008
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:58:25 AM
Worth repeating:
"Well said Evowner.."Keep this idea in Texas. Next they want a passport to enter Texas at the border. I though this kind of thinking was abandoned when the US Constitution was ratified."
"Nope their thinking hasn't changed in 50 years...and that's the problem!"
|
blupupher
Champion Author
Houston
Posts:3,695
Points:775,745
Joined:Feb 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:11:41 AM
i don't like toll roads.
You pay the toll for the road, yet you also still pay gas tax for the fuel you use that does not go to the road your driving on.
|
virostek
Veteran Author
Virginia
Posts:423
Points:90,285
Joined:Oct 2012
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 7:02:21 AM
Why?
|
MAC48
Champion Author
Dallas
Posts:1,580
Points:788,525
Joined:Dec 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 4:51:27 AM
What Texas really needs is an expansion of Interstate 27 from Lubbock to Del Rio that would run to the West of the existing I-35 corridor. This route would avoid the DFW, Austin and San Antonio population centers, provide an alternate route and crossing point for truck traffic headed to or from the Mexican/US border by providing a second NAFTA highway and give needed relief of the congestion frequently experienced on I-35. It might even be advisable to extend Interstate 27 North to the Denver area.
The Chambers of Commerce in DFW, Austin and San Antonio would cry foul but just think of the heavy truck traffic heading to or from the West, Northwest and North of the US/Canada that would not be on I-35 and the related vehicle pollution reduction along the I-35 corridor that would result from such an extension of Interstate 27.
|
iFueler
Champion Author
Durham
Posts:65,033
Points:206,000
Joined:Nov 2012
|
Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 1:16:56 AM
toll roads are making a comeback, not that they ever let in some parts of the country.
|
drpepperTX
Champion Author
Texas
Posts:9,159
Points:778,875
Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:58:21 PM
Actually evowner and the one who would have us eat the cake, the tollway is a true user pay system. Nobody makes you travel on them, it's a choice unlike the taxes you guys love so much.
As always.....the truth shall set you free!
|
LetemEatCake
Champion Author
Oklahoma City
Posts:5,667
Points:1,229,200
Joined:Mar 2008
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:03:01 PM
Well said Evowner.."Keep this idea in Texas. Next they want a passport to enter Texas at the border. I though this kind of thinking was abandoned when the US Constitution was ratified."
Nope their thinking hasn't changed in 50 years...and that's the problem!
|
Ply440GTX
Champion Author
Texas
Posts:1,009
Points:313,555
Joined:Feb 2009
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 9:15:11 PM
...and how will these work if people avoid them??? Up the speed limits to 100 m.p.h.?!?!?!
|
CityCouponer
Champion Author
New Orleans
Posts:1,073
Points:228,830
Joined:Aug 2012
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 8:30:31 PM
Is this necessary?
|
kag2010
Champion Author
Winnipeg
Posts:5,399
Points:1,048,435
Joined:Apr 2010
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 6:59:12 PM
The poor get poorer right,
|
YumaFellow
Champion Author
Arizona
Posts:1,426
Points:649,320
Joined:Jan 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 5:25:15 PM
It is the usual Republican bait and switch. "We won't raise taxes: we will just raise tolls and fees". (And privatize everything so that our friends can make off with the big bucks at public expense.)
|
ObieDog
Champion Author
Maryland
Posts:2,051
Points:877,120
Joined:Sep 2010
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 2:51:07 PM
Hate that everything is starting to toll.
|
dabayer
Champion Author
New Hampshire
Posts:2,834
Points:639,080
Joined:Oct 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 2:15:03 PM
Rich investors get richer, the poor get poorer.
|
ziyulu
Champion Author
Oklahoma City
Posts:8,635
Points:1,630,070
Joined:Aug 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 1:57:06 PM
Great, as long as I'm not paying for it, bring it on.
|
doggod
Champion Author
Anchorage
Posts:2,983
Points:768,085
Joined:May 2009
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 1:40:41 PM
Why not let private companies build it too? That is, if investors agree it's such a great idea.
|
evowner
Champion Author
Salem
Posts:2,321
Points:386,170
Joined:May 2012
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 1:07:01 PM
Keep this idea in Texas. Next they want a passport to enter Texas at the border. I though this kind of thinking was abandoned when the US Constitution was ratified.
|
teenitup
Champion Author
Houston
Posts:1,847
Points:276,885
Joined:Sep 2012
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 12:19:42 PM
Tolls on 130:
Plazas $1.35
Ramps $0.45
|
VomVom
Champion Author
Calgary
Posts:3,863
Points:1,648,600
Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:53:16 AM
Over the past few days, there have been a number of articles about States needing money for new roads and highway maintenance. Many states are considering raising gasoline taxes. Wyoming is the latest. Perry basically addressed the issue without raising taxes. He might have a brain freeze during the Republican nomination debates, but you've got to give him credit for his insight and vision for the state of Texas. Whether people wants to admit it or not, traffic is getting worse without new roads and transportation planning.
|
md11capt
Champion Author
Denver
Posts:3,558
Points:729,930
Joined:Mar 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:25:48 AM
An idea by Texas High Speed Rail and Transportation Corporation
whose mission is to:
Bring High Speed Rail to Texas by 2020
Develop a system capable of operating at speeds in excess of 200mph
A completely grade-separate, mostly elevated track
Dual directional track
Stations off the main line
A corridor connecting major airports
|
ggwbike
Sophomore Author
Montana
Posts:111
Points:2,114,540
Joined:Sep 2005
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:17:26 AM
I wish that all states would make their toll roads EZ-Pass compatible for paying tolls. Most southern and western states use separate transponders that only work on that state's toll roads. I would like to be able to use one transponder nationwide.
|
VomVom
Champion Author
Calgary
Posts:3,863
Points:1,648,600
Joined:May 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:03:54 AM
"Toll road, slow road or no road"- Perry was and is right.
|
lesabreAZ
Champion Author
Phoenix
Posts:1,819
Points:438,945
Joined:Nov 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 11:03:44 AM
if the roads are maintained, people will pay tolls
|
jimgraham
Champion Author
Akron
Posts:10,510
Points:2,007,450
Joined:Oct 2007
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:23:41 AM
Concerning State Highway 130 between Austin and Seguin - no mention of what the toll costs are and how much it is used.
Sooo - what are the tolls?
|
humblepie
Champion Author
Toledo
Posts:35,337
Points:2,399,070
Joined:Mar 2006
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:23:30 AM
what no tax levy's ?, how dare he operate in a sane manner
|
greatartiste
All-Star Author
New Jersey
Posts:540
Points:105,810
Joined:Apr 2011
|
Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 10:11:07 AM
Rick Perry = idiot
|