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nraacct

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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:14:16 PM

If the trash truck or bus rolling down your street seems a little quieter these days, you're not imagining things. It's probably running on natural gas.
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:22:00 PM

DeserTBoB...I am really surprised that a Propane engine last longer than a CNG. Chemically there is very little difference between the 2. Without complete information, I would surmise that because both NG and Propane need a compression ration of at a minimum of 10.5 to 1 and burns much hotter than Gas, Someone has converted a Gas engine to burn NG. Not only is this conversion not very fuel efficient, but it has a short lifespan.

[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 11/26/2012 11:23:59 PM EST]
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bston
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:00:27 PM

Possibly a good deal!
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nsdp
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:03:56 PM

Desert Bob I wonder where those Case engines came from. JI Case quit building engines when they merged with International Harvester and Steiger in 1986. All Magnum and later lines standardized on the Cummins turbo diesels.

If it is a for real JI Case engine it is 25 years old.

Scott Tee the Natural Gas Act was passed in 1938 and is codified at 15USC 1 et al.

[Edited by: nsdp at 11/26/2012 10:06:02 PM EST]
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fuel2use
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 4:34:54 AM

Why not.
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 2:15:39 AM

sounds like may be promising
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AGGAVA
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:39:55 PM

haven't they always been targeting public transit?
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:23:48 PM

Aren't there natural gas cars too?
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Barfood
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:23:19 PM

This makes a lot more sense than 'general use' cars.
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davenles
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 10:28:34 PM

Glad to hear it.
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AKmailman
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 10:16:21 PM

They need to target Detroit to get them to have CNG ready
Vehicles roll off the assembly line
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JoeKR
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:55:01 PM

That would advance the use of natural gas infrastructure and tremendously reduce the consumption of gasoline!
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esq262
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:42:36 PM

It is a fret bridge fuel.
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BigTruc
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:10:49 PM

It's about time.
Nat gas is a terrific resource.
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jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:03:47 PM

Good move.
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Night Owl
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:46:01 PM

Yes, let's use America's and Canada's plentiful supplies of natural gas.
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Spankster85
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:34:48 PM

Great market to start in.
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walkingtall
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:33:03 PM

Everyone needs to pitch in.
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evowner
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:11:51 PM

Might be applicable to use in order to use the old ICE technology up while developing an electric based transport system.
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ScottTee
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 6:50:04 PM

this is a good thing, now Congress pass the Natural Gas Act
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rcornel
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:59:30 PM

Ok
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JagXKR
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:46:57 PM

The more use and miles travelled the better and faster return on initial investment. Makes sense for those vehicles.
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attackninja
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:18:43 PM

This sounds promising.
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mlmeng
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:48:32 PM

Natural gas as an automotive fuel source has much upside.
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:35:46 PM

Waste Management is running all natgas powered trucks in my area, and has been for several years. All the diesels are gone. They're quieter, but the Case natgas engines they're using won't last much more than 50K miles before rebuild. School bus fleets that traded in their old Detroit-powered Crown coaches to get new natgas-fueled buses are experiencing the same thing. Good for the environment, though, and less noise. They just need to get their act together on engine longevity. You'll note that propane engines don't have this problem.
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kag2010
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:27:03 PM

This is promising maybe..
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VomVom
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:05:27 PM

Of course they target trucks & buses. They are the bigger consumers. Corporate owners can afford to put in fuelling stations. However, the government, NG producers and car makers should work together to coordinate the timely available of CNG vehicles and refuelling infrastructures. This way we can switch over to CNG cars & LNG trucks sooner and more effectively.
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JCI46009IN
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:46:15 PM

We need CNG cars for all of us
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AVKZ
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:45:14 PM

Quieter is nice.
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gizbo123
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:24:50 PM

Ours are on nat gas, once we are hooked on it the price will go up, unfortunately our house gas will do the same.
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RitaVespa
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:13:00 PM

We should use natural gas. Local
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csblesson
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:10:28 PM

It is a good start. It is very successful in many countries
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SolarReplaceGas
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:04:44 PM

Works for me. Seems to make sense all around.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:49:27 PM

at least until the price spike hits
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hrjjml
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:38:11 PM

This is promising, keep researching.
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:37:57 PM

From the article: "EQT wasn't sure how the station would be received."

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This innovation is nothing short of spectacular and thrilling. Whereas BO's promotion of "all of the above" energy policy is mostly rhetoric, some in the industry are moving forward. It's true, that Natural gas is less risky than venturing towards constructing anything associated with coal. But with the EPA's report being released soon (On "fracking"), NG users could find themselves between that proverbial rock and hard place.

It might take another 4 years of having the "Usurper" in the oval office before people fully awaken, but when the sleeping giant does wake up (assuming we are not, by then, already adorned in chains), "Katie, bar the door".
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HorizonChaser
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:36:41 PM

That's where the money is right now.
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