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nraacct Champion Author North Carolina Posts:6,878 Points:1,469,025 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:14:16 PM Ignore nraacct Report Abuse If the trash truck or bus rolling down your street seems a little quieter these days, you're not imagining things. It's probably running on natural gas. Visit Associated Press for full article

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If the trash truck or bus rolling down your street seems a little quieter these days, you're not imagining things. It's probably running on natural gas.
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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,609 Points:1,206,455 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:22:00 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse DeserTBoB...I am really surprised that a Propane engine last longer than a CNG. Chemically there is very little difference between the 2. Without complete information, I would surmise that because both NG and Propane need a compression ration of at a minimum of 10.5 to 1 and burns much hotter than Gas, Someone has converted a Gas engine to burn NG. Not only is this conversion not very fuel efficient, but it has a short lifespan. [Edited by: LetemEatCake at 11/26/2012 11:23:59 PM EST]
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,825 Points:643,250 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 11:00:27 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Possibly a good deal!
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,315 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 10:03:56 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Desert Bob I wonder where those Case engines came from. JI Case quit building engines when they merged with International Harvester and Steiger in 1986. All Magnum and later lines standardized on the Cummins turbo diesels. If it is a for real JI Case engine it is 25 years old. Scott Tee the Natural Gas Act was passed in 1938 and is codified at 15USC 1 et al. [Edited by: nsdp at 11/26/2012 10:06:02 PM EST]
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,493 Points:734,300 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 4:34:54 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Why not.
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:64,433 Points:180,475 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 2:15:39 AM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse sounds like may be promising
AGGAVA Sophomore Author Richmond Posts:105 Points:19,215 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:39:55 PM Ignore AGGAVA Report Abuse haven't they always been targeting public transit?
andy1024 Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,707 Points:449,125 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:23:48 PM Ignore andy1024 Report Abuse Aren't there natural gas cars too?
Barfood Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,306 Points:1,018,655 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 11:23:19 PM Ignore Barfood Report Abuse This makes a lot more sense than 'general use' cars.
davenles Champion Author Texas Posts:3,206 Points:719,860 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 10:28:34 PM Ignore davenles Report Abuse Glad to hear it.
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:5,643 Points:1,559,515 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 10:16:21 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse They need to target Detroit to get them to have CNG ready Vehicles roll off the assembly line
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,478 Points:1,745,445 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:55:01 PM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse That would advance the use of natural gas infrastructure and tremendously reduce the consumption of gasoline!
esq262 Champion Author Asheville Posts:2,907 Points:649,465 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:42:36 PM Ignore esq262 Report Abuse It is a fret bridge fuel.
BigTruc All-Star Author Memphis Posts:962 Points:782,390 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:10:49 PM Ignore BigTruc Report Abuse It's about time. Nat gas is a terrific resource.
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,882 Points:1,520,280 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 8:03:47 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse Good move.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,560 Points:1,788,550 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:46:01 PM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Yes, let's use America's and Canada's plentiful supplies of natural gas.
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,734 Points:358,040 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:34:48 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Great market to start in.
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,004 Points:1,122,655 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:33:03 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Everyone needs to pitch in.
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,187 Points:360,235 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 7:11:51 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse Might be applicable to use in order to use the old ICE technology up while developing an electric based transport system.
ScottTee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,396 Points:1,064,570 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 6:50:04 PM Ignore ScottTee Report Abuse this is a good thing, now Congress pass the Natural Gas Act
rcornel All-Star Author San Diego Posts:729 Points:229,045 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:59:30 PM Ignore rcornel Report Abuse Ok
JagXKR Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,164 Points:1,093,105 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:46:57 PM Ignore JagXKR Report Abuse The more use and miles travelled the better and faster return on initial investment. Makes sense for those vehicles.
attackninja Sophomore Author Georgia Posts:189 Points:49,000 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 5:18:43 PM Ignore attackninja Report Abuse This sounds promising.
mlmeng Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,640 Points:592,785 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:48:32 PM Ignore mlmeng Report Abuse Natural gas as an automotive fuel source has much upside.
DeserTBoB Champion Author California Posts:1,344 Points:202,150 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:35:46 PM Ignore DeserTBoB Report Abuse Waste Management is running all natgas powered trucks in my area, and has been for several years. All the diesels are gone. They're quieter, but the Case natgas engines they're using won't last much more than 50K miles before rebuild. School bus fleets that traded in their old Detroit-powered Crown coaches to get new natgas-fueled buses are experiencing the same thing. Good for the environment, though, and less noise. They just need to get their act together on engine longevity. You'll note that propane engines don't have this problem.
kag2010 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:5,264 Points:1,021,710 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:27:03 PM Ignore kag2010 Report Abuse This is promising maybe..
VomVom Champion Author Calgary Posts:3,857 Points:1,627,080 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 4:05:27 PM Ignore VomVom Report Abuse Of course they target trucks & buses. They are the bigger consumers. Corporate owners can afford to put in fuelling stations. However, the government, NG producers and car makers should work together to coordinate the timely available of CNG vehicles and refuelling infrastructures. This way we can switch over to CNG cars & LNG trucks sooner and more effectively.
JCI46009IN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,129 Points:439,570 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:46:15 PM Ignore JCI46009IN Report Abuse We need CNG cars for all of us
AVKZ All-Star Author Kalamazoo Posts:851 Points:295,000 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:45:14 PM Ignore AVKZ Report Abuse Quieter is nice.
gizbo123 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,517 Points:1,752,920 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:24:50 PM Ignore gizbo123 Report Abuse Ours are on nat gas, once we are hooked on it the price will go up, unfortunately our house gas will do the same.
RitaVespa Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,986 Points:793,235 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:13:00 PM Ignore RitaVespa Report Abuse We should use natural gas. Local
csblesson Champion Author Texas Posts:1,821 Points:354,100 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:10:28 PM Ignore csblesson Report Abuse It is a good start. It is very successful in many countries
SolarReplaceGas Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,010 Points:210,170 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 3:04:44 PM Ignore SolarReplaceGas Report Abuse Works for me. Seems to make sense all around.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,271 Points:2,372,345 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:49:27 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse at least until the price spike hits
hrjjml All-Star Author Florida Posts:586 Points:380,045 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:38:11 PM Ignore hrjjml Report Abuse This is promising, keep researching.
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,061 Points:794,510 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:37:57 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse From the article: "EQT wasn't sure how the station would be received." ============================================================ This innovation is nothing short of spectacular and thrilling. Whereas BO's promotion of "all of the above" energy policy is mostly rhetoric, some in the industry are moving forward. It's true, that Natural gas is less risky than venturing towards constructing anything associated with coal. But with the EPA's report being released soon (On "fracking"), NG users could find themselves between that proverbial rock and hard place. It might take another 4 years of having the "Usurper" in the oval office before people fully awaken, but when the sleeping giant does wake up (assuming we are not, by then, already adorned in chains), "Katie, bar the door".
HorizonChaser Champion Author Montgomery Posts:1,989 Points:457,235 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 2:36:41 PM Ignore HorizonChaser Report Abuse That's where the money is right now.