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Eugenian
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 5:56:06 PM

For a time, the United States led the world in developing renewable energy. At one point the Carter administration's Solar Energy Research Institute (SERI) made the dream of a renewable energy economy so real that it set off alarms in the oil-rich countries of the Middle East.

"The big powers are seriously trying to find alternatives to oil by seeking to draw energy from the sun," Saudi Arabia's oil minister Sheikh Ahmad Zaki Yamani warned his colleagues. "We hope to God they will not succeed quickly because our position in that case will be painful."

Four years later, Carter was defeated by Ronald Reagan. The new administration considered SERI a prime example of what it derided as "solar socialism." The budget of the world's leading solar institute was slashed and before long it was bac
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FluffyDogAttack
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 1:12:08 PM

"Green Energy" will work when it ACTUALLY works on every level, NOT when Government mandates it. Now, on the other hand, it's obvious that marketing "green" to the gullible masses is already working.
Ahking
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 12:38:53 PM

The U.S. has more options to develop alternate energy than Germany & should develop the infrastructure more quickly.
leeac
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 6:56:43 AM

Where there is a will there is a way. The US should support Green Energy.
millerin
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2012 1:03:19 AM

might be
bston
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 10:53:12 PM

Their energy needs are most likely different from ours.
evowner
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 10:17:28 PM

Political lobbying by big oil interests have been preventing the US from being a world leader in energy.
leraar2
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 6:11:00 PM

"solar socialism":

sort of like the "communist" boogey man applied to the U.S. labor
movement of the 1900-1940's.

those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.

[Edited by: leraar2 at 11/24/2012 6:13:31 PM EST]
Radar1992
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 8:41:45 AM

I don't want the US to be like Germany...Unless you can make 'Green Energy' economically feasible and profitable then only gov't support will make it work.

Look at recycling....we have been recycling Aluminum cans for years since it is cheaper to re-smelt Aluminum cans versus Bauxite ore...hence why we did it...

Now recycling is the 'Green' thing and it is more expensive than landfills since more people touch the items and most of the stuff goes right in the landfill anyway...

This is the same for 'Green' Energy.....
leeac
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 7:07:01 AM

Yes we can. It takes investment and commitment. The President is doing his part.
Nancy&Len
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 5:20:17 AM

Not with all the regulations that this administration keeps enacting.
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 2:52:45 AM

How much is Germany paying for their renewable. It usually costs four to five times as much as Coal produced energy and has to be subsidized by the Government. With that kind of a deal can we really afford to be that green?
Vette1967
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 1:44:36 AM

It didn't help when Ronald ordered the Jimmy's solar panels on the White House taken down.
GDAE
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 1:34:00 AM

I doubt it.
gcalleja
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 1:18:21 AM

Interesting.
MAC48
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 12:46:16 AM

As memory serves, there are signs in the wonderful world built by the Green Party in Deutschland that they have made very great mistakes in the plan to shut down their nuclear power plants and the plan that requires any who produce kWhs and puts their excess dWhs back into the national grid be paid because there comes a point where there are not enough paying in to provide money enough to cover the required pay outs.

LostInNY
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 12:09:36 AM

How can you compare? differences in size of country and available natural resources...
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 11:50:17 PM


Sure hope so!
Wally3023
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 11:34:42 PM

Not looking
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:44:25 PM

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andy1024
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:20:58 PM

Hope US will catch up.
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 10:12:28 PM


Excellent article, thanks for posting Eugenian!
evowner
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 9:26:50 PM

If the energy policies of the Carter administration were not destroyed by the intellectually changed, think of the advanced society we'd be living in now.
jl1rp
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 9:10:20 PM

good read.
badgames
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 8:19:12 PM

Germany is now thinking it was a mistake on their part, do we really want to follow them?
jjjleblanc
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 8:16:46 PM

Shouldn't feel the need to.
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 8:13:28 PM

If alternatives are so great... then why aren't many people pursuing them without taxpayer subsidies?
graceman
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:54:11 PM

Then the republicans won the President race.
comprof
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:28:06 PM

JDChefF: Best common sense reply I have seen today.
JDchefF
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:18:57 PM

We need to be oil and energy independent, but not waste money doing it.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 7:00:06 PM

after germany said it was a mistake ?
jwkycola
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:57:41 PM

We need to continue to see if alternatives to oil can work.
ktbaeohana
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:34:00 PM

watch and see.
fracknsave
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:31:24 PM

Why would we want to . . . ?
TheRedFez
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:31:07 PM

Proponents of alternative energy should establish themselves as separate from the politico-enviromentalists as much as possible. This would bolster the viability of their efforts, IMO.
YaBassa
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:15:41 PM

Unfortunately no. With the political polarization we have in the country now it would be impossible.
dorisntx
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 6:03:40 PM

The US should try anything that's cost effective, not politically motivated, and would give us energy independence. But what do I know??
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