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nraacct

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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:22:29 PM

By the usual measurements, Subaru should be no more than an afterthought in the U.S. car market. It sells just seven car and crossover models and accounts for a slim 2.3% of U.S. auto sales. By itself, the Toyota Camry outsells the entire Subaru lineup. For years Subaru has been essentially a regional brand -- strong in the Northeast and Northwest but unknown in the rest of the country. No overnight success, Subaru of America -- the U.S. arm of Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries -- began selling cars in the U.S. 44 years ago and still ranks only 12th in size. Hyundai and Kia, which arrived two decades later, have developed broader product lines and sell several times more vehicles.
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MAC48
Champion Author Dallas

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 1:27:04 PM

The Subaru BRZ reminds me very much of the Datson 240, 260 and 280 series of the mid 70s to 90s. I still want a 280ZX 2+2 in royal blue and silver with a T-Top. It will be interesting to see if Subaru follows the path that Datson, a.k.a. Nissan, set 35 years ago with the 260 replacing the 240 and the 280 replacing the 260.

If Subaru follows the Datson pattern with the same improvements in performance, styling, comfort and pricing in each succeding refinement, I can see a BRZ in my future.
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blupupher
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 9:01:13 AM

Subaru is a niche market
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bston
Champion Author Oklahoma City

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 1:05:17 AM

Different vehicles for differing tastes.
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Alanj44
Sophomore Author Birmingham

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:59:53 PM

Niche car! I know where there are some Suzuki stores that might need a new line!
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alterman156
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:33:00 PM

Subarus are good cars, but they have been overpriced at times.
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listerone
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 6:02:58 PM

Subaru? No thanks.
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FlatulenceOdor
All-Star Author Maryland

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 5:16:30 PM

Love their commercials, especially the TV ad, called “Baby Driver,”

[Edited by: FlatulenceOdor at 11/20/2012 5:18:34 PM EST]
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TableTalk
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:32:39 PM

Dumb name says it all. Fix the name, and provide superior quality at a lower price. Do that and market share will improve. Oh, and don't make them ugly, paint them weird colors, or apply other nonsense. Welcome to America. I had a neighbor who bought one when they first came out many years ago. She tried to tech me how to pronounce the name. That's when I knew they would always be an also ran until they fix the name. The 44 years is proof.

[Edited by: TableTalk at 11/20/2012 4:33:46 PM EST]
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doctorindyj
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:06:22 AM

The eco-nut hippies love them here and I hear them talking about the wonders of their all wheel drive and how good they are for the environment. What they don't discuss is how AWD soaks up gas like a sponge. Not that it's a bad car but I think some people are running on assumptions.
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 9:46:14 AM

Not the best - but definitely one of the best!
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BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:57:31 AM

I'll pass!
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GDAE
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:27:39 AM

In a word no!
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MustangGTConv
Sophomore Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:12:20 AM

I have a 2012 Impreza with the CVT and I must say that it for my needs it was the best car for my money. I get about 33 MPG overall and for a compact car it is a very nice and smooth ride. I drive 81N from Front Royal to Syracuse very often and during the winter PA doesn't do a great job of clearing the road in the endless mountain range but with 6.1" of ground clearance and AWD I have made it up there safely while others have had to back/slide down some steep hills. I currently have 26K miles on it without any issues and as long as it keeps up this will be my first of many Subarus.
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jeffbone
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:09:48 AM

"Not Newsworthy"
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dabayer
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:50:13 AM

Too expensive, low mpg.
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car253
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:36:55 AM

No, but a decent car. Since it is a foreign brand I will no buy one.
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humblepie
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:30:34 AM

pretty big in the mountains of the atlantic coast also
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el_fr
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:28:23 AM

No, but good cars none the less
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bicycle1966
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:10:29 AM

very reliable. Not all that uncommon (dealers aren't the only ones who can do repairs). Great in snow, rain. Not the best gas mileage, but all of them have all-wheel-drive. I've owned two and loved them.
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leeac
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 6:56:39 AM

With so few cars on the road in places like Ohio only a rare dealer can to repairs. This is a big disadvantage.
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ktyson13
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:29:04 AM

The quick answer! NO
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Bussman
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:16:31 AM

What???.
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Eugenian
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 3:27:16 AM

I'm very pleased with my old Suby (187,000 miles so far with no major problems and still the original clutch), but I'm disappointed in the company for lagging behind most of the rest of the industry when it comes to implementing mpg-boosting technologies.

[Edited by: Eugenian at 11/20/2012 3:30:55 AM EST]
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pricewar
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 3:02:39 AM

This how they brain wash
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Ahking
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:53:51 AM

it depends.
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HoBuddy2012
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:21:02 AM

Nope!
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Amplion
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:16:41 AM

NO!, NO WAY!, NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:44:43 AM

hahahaha Not a chance.
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ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:24:17 AM

Not for me.
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kkimes
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:18:56 AM

My first 'economy' car was a used 1971 Subaru FF1 that I bought in 1972 just before the gas crisis hit. Best move I ever made. It only weighed 1600 lbs but was very roomy for 4 people. I was in a car pool during the gas crisis and every one wanted me to drive. With 800 lbs of riders (4 good size guys), I still got high 20's mpg and never had a problem with the car. But I didn't keep it too long.

I traded it for a Mazda RX2 after the gas crisis was over. I loved it and the way the engine would rev up to 7000 rpm as smooth as silk. But one of the most problem proned cars I ever owned.
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LilRedWagonIN
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:15:45 AM

Bought one based on Consumer Reports article years ago. Worst car I ever had.
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Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:15:12 AM

Very funny!!! Subarus are total junk, at least the lower cost ones are.
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BuckyTJones
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:09:12 AM


Not for me, Not a Yuppy
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1momsunshine
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:32:53 AM

OK
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MN1
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:25:53 AM

No thanks.
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jetskijerry
Champion Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:13:04 AM

All Wheel Drive
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jetskijerry
Champion Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:12:54 AM

Big in the mountains near Boone
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danindenver
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:09:28 AM

Had one about 20 years ago.
Got expensive to keep replacing the clutch in it.

Never replaced the clutch on any other car I've driven.

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davenles
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:51:48 PM

Low sales even though most people know their commercials. Got the name recognition, but that's about it.
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andy1024
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:35:01 PM

It's a solid car, although people may differ in taste.
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CVA19
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:28:29 PM

Have you ever owned a lemon? I have, and it was a Subaru. Hopefully, my experience is far from the rule for the brand.

I'm sure there are many happy Subaru customers out there, but I will never own another due to this experience.
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MOREDLEG
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:24:06 PM

I like them but, They seem to be overpriced. IMHO
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Tacodan
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:21:34 PM

We have 2 Toyota's built in America ! With American employees that pay taxes here in America. And spend their money here in America, and without the help of the UAW ................
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bwp9970
Veteran Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:02:27 PM

We have 3 vehicles. All american.
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sillywagon
Champion Author New York

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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:54:11 PM

My next vehicle will likely be a... Subaru.
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jl1rp
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:53:13 PM

Family has had 4 so far.
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:35:37 PM

I remember when the first "Subes" hit California...those awful 2 stroke things that looks like some sort of insect. The "boxer 4s" were better, but still were definitely sushi roll cars. I don't see anything in the Subaru lineup that's going to make them a good seller...ever.
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