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nraacct Champion Author North Carolina Posts:6,884 Points:1,470,000 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:22:29 PM Ignore nraacct Report Abuse By the usual measurements, Subaru should be no more than an afterthought in the U.S. car market. It sells just seven car and crossover models and accounts for a slim 2.3% of U.S. auto sales. By itself, the Toyota Camry outsells the entire Subaru lineup. For years Subaru has been essentially a regional brand -- strong in the Northeast and Northwest but unknown in the rest of the country. No overnight success, Subaru of America -- the U.S. arm of Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries -- began selling cars in the U.S. 44 years ago and still ranks only 12th in size. Hyundai and Kia, which arrived two decades later, have developed broader product lines and sell several times more vehicles. Visit Fortune for full article

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By the usual measurements, Subaru should be no more than an afterthought in the U.S. car market. It sells just seven car and crossover models and accounts for a slim 2.3% of U.S. auto sales. By itself, the Toyota Camry outsells the entire Subaru lineup. For years Subaru has been essentially a regional brand -- strong in the Northeast and Northwest but unknown in the rest of the country. No overnight success, Subaru of America -- the U.S. arm of Japan's Fuji Heavy Industries -- began selling cars in the U.S. 44 years ago and still ranks only 12th in size. Hyundai and Kia, which arrived two decades later, have developed broader product lines and sell several times more vehicles.
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MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,551 Points:768,795 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 1:27:04 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse The Subaru BRZ reminds me very much of the Datson 240, 260 and 280 series of the mid 70s to 90s. I still want a 280ZX 2+2 in royal blue and silver with a T-Top. It will be interesting to see if Subaru follows the path that Datson, a.k.a. Nissan, set 35 years ago with the 260 replacing the 240 and the 280 replacing the 260. If Subaru follows the Datson pattern with the same improvements in performance, styling, comfort and pricing in each succeding refinement, I can see a BRZ in my future.
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,566 Points:750,970 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 9:01:13 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse Subaru is a niche market
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,830 Points:644,975 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 1:05:17 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse Different vehicles for differing tastes.
Alanj44 Rookie Author Birmingham Posts:96 Points:138,720 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:59:53 PM Ignore Alanj44 Report Abuse Niche car! I know where there are some Suzuki stores that might need a new line!
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,500 Points:1,559,700 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:33:00 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Subarus are good cars, but they have been overpriced at times.
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,390 Points:881,465 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 6:02:58 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse Subaru? No thanks.
FlatulenceOdor Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:215 Points:209,920 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 5:16:30 PM Ignore FlatulenceOdor Report Abuse Love their commercials, especially the TV ad, called “Baby Driver,” [Edited by: FlatulenceOdor at 11/20/2012 5:18:34 PM EST]
TableTalk Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,184 Points:558,700 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:32:39 PM Ignore TableTalk Report Abuse Dumb name says it all. Fix the name, and provide superior quality at a lower price. Do that and market share will improve. Oh, and don't make them ugly, paint them weird colors, or apply other nonsense. Welcome to America. I had a neighbor who bought one when they first came out many years ago. She tried to tech me how to pronounce the name. That's when I knew they would always be an also ran until they fix the name. The 44 years is proof. [Edited by: TableTalk at 11/20/2012 4:33:46 PM EST]
doctorindyj Champion Author Santa Fe Posts:3,463 Points:842,510 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 11:06:22 AM Ignore doctorindyj Report Abuse The eco-nut hippies love them here and I hear them talking about the wonders of their all wheel drive and how good they are for the environment. What they don't discuss is how AWD soaks up gas like a sponge. Not that it's a bad car but I think some people are running on assumptions.
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,342 Points:163,050 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 9:46:14 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Not the best - but definitely one of the best!
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,952 Points:726,840 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:57:31 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse I'll pass!
GDAE Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,165 Points:223,825 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:27:39 AM Ignore GDAE Report Abuse In a word no!
MustangGTConv Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:211 Points:70,700 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:12:20 AM Ignore MustangGTConv Report Abuse I have a 2012 Impreza with the CVT and I must say that it for my needs it was the best car for my money. I get about 33 MPG overall and for a compact car it is a very nice and smooth ride. I drive 81N from Front Royal to Syracuse very often and during the winter PA doesn't do a great job of clearing the road in the endless mountain range but with 6.1" of ground clearance and AWD I have made it up there safely while others have had to back/slide down some steep hills. I currently have 26K miles on it without any issues and as long as it keeps up this will be my first of many Subarus.
jeffbone Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,366 Points:401,810 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:09:48 AM Ignore jeffbone Report Abuse "Not Newsworthy"
dabayer Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,753 Points:624,055 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:50:13 AM Ignore dabayer Report Abuse Too expensive, low mpg.
car253 Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,308 Points:1,471,545 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:36:55 AM Ignore car253 Report Abuse No, but a decent car. Since it is a foreign brand I will no buy one.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,321 Points:2,374,295 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:30:34 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse pretty big in the mountains of the atlantic coast also
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,352 Points:747,625 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:28:23 AM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse No, but good cars none the less
bicycle1966 All-Star Author Akron Posts:605 Points:404,840 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 7:10:29 AM Ignore bicycle1966 Report Abuse very reliable. Not all that uncommon (dealers aren't the only ones who can do repairs). Great in snow, rain. Not the best gas mileage, but all of them have all-wheel-drive. I've owned two and loved them.
leeac Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,611 Points:436,830 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 6:56:39 AM Ignore leeac Report Abuse With so few cars on the road in places like Ohio only a rare dealer can to repairs. This is a big disadvantage.
ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,546 Points:399,350 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:29:04 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse The quick answer! NO
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,528 Points:1,361,910 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:16:31 AM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse What???.
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,878 Points:365,055 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 3:27:16 AM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse I'm very pleased with my old Suby (187,000 miles so far with no major problems and still the original clutch), but I'm disappointed in the company for lagging behind most of the rest of the industry when it comes to implementing mpg-boosting technologies. [Edited by: Eugenian at 11/20/2012 3:30:55 AM EST]
pricewar Champion Author Ogden Posts:1,961 Points:278,140 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 3:02:39 AM Ignore pricewar Report Abuse This how they brain wash
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,517 Points:605,400 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:53:51 AM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse it depends.
HoBuddy2012 Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:161 Points:157,300 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:21:02 AM Ignore HoBuddy2012 Report Abuse Nope!
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,783 Points:1,867,985 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:16:41 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse NO!, NO WAY!, NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,436 Points:1,099,120 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:44:43 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse hahahaha Not a chance.
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,093 Points:800,075 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:24:17 AM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Not for me.
kkimes Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,606 Points:1,508,105 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:18:56 AM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse My first 'economy' car was a used 1971 Subaru FF1 that I bought in 1972 just before the gas crisis hit. Best move I ever made. It only weighed 1600 lbs but was very roomy for 4 people. I was in a car pool during the gas crisis and every one wanted me to drive. With 800 lbs of riders (4 good size guys), I still got high 20's mpg and never had a problem with the car. But I didn't keep it too long. I traded it for a Mazda RX2 after the gas crisis was over. I loved it and the way the engine would rev up to 7000 rpm as smooth as silk. But one of the most problem proned cars I ever owned.
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,791 Points:1,558,060 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:15:45 AM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse Bought one based on Consumer Reports article years ago. Worst car I ever had.
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,772 Points:1,855,295 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:15:12 AM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse Very funny!!! Subarus are total junk, at least the lower cost ones are.
BuckyTJones Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,932 Points:967,950 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:09:12 AM Ignore BuckyTJones Report Abuse Not for me, Not a Yuppy
1momsunshine Champion Author Ottawa Posts:5,505 Points:1,003,505 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:32:53 AM Ignore 1momsunshine Report Abuse OK
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,374 Points:653,515 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:25:53 AM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse No thanks.
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,911 Points:775,195 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:13:04 AM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse All Wheel Drive
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,911 Points:775,195 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:12:54 AM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse Big in the mountains near Boone
danindenver Champion Author Denver Posts:5,500 Points:1,241,180 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:09:28 AM Ignore danindenver Report Abuse Had one about 20 years ago. Got expensive to keep replacing the clutch in it. Never replaced the clutch on any other car I've driven.
davenles Champion Author Texas Posts:3,211 Points:721,585 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:51:48 PM Ignore davenles Report Abuse Low sales even though most people know their commercials. Got the name recognition, but that's about it.
andy1024 Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,712 Points:450,200 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:35:01 PM Ignore andy1024 Report Abuse It's a solid car, although people may differ in taste.
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:611,325 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:28:29 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Have you ever owned a lemon? I have, and it was a Subaru. Hopefully, my experience is far from the rule for the brand. I'm sure there are many happy Subaru customers out there, but I will never own another due to this experience.
MOREDLEG Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,666 Points:614,035 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:24:06 PM Ignore MOREDLEG Report Abuse I like them but, They seem to be overpriced. IMHO
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,341 Points:656,385 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:21:34 PM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse We have 2 Toyota's built in America ! With American employees that pay taxes here in America. And spend their money here in America, and without the help of the UAW ................
bwp9970 Veteran Author Alabama Posts:254 Points:269,770 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:02:27 PM Ignore bwp9970 Report Abuse We have 3 vehicles. All american.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,907 Points:1,443,295 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:54:11 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse My next vehicle will likely be a... Subaru.
jl1rp Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,832 Points:360,355 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:53:13 PM Ignore jl1rp Report Abuse Family has had 4 so far.
DeserTBoB Champion Author California Posts:1,349 Points:203,125 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:35:37 PM Ignore DeserTBoB Report Abuse I remember when the first "Subes" hit California...those awful 2 stroke things that looks like some sort of insect. The "boxer 4s" were better, but still were definitely sushi roll cars. I don't see anything in the Subaru lineup that's going to make them a good seller...ever.