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NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,056 Points:1,510,390 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:56:00 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse Following Bill McKibben's "Do The Math" tour stop in Washington, D.C. Sunday, members of 350.org and other activists are marching around the White House urging President Obama to reject the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline. Following the march, which features a 500-foot mock pipeline, author and 350.org founder Bill McKibben, Sierra Club President Allison Chin and Oklahoma-based environmental leader Earl Hatley plan to speak on the pipeline and encouraged Obama to address climate change. McKibben recently addressed Washington's inaction on climate change. In an email to HuffPost's Tom Zeller, McKibben wrote, "It's true that D.C. hasn't yet caught on... They're still in the grip of the fossil fuel industry." Visit TheHuffingtonPost.com for full article

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Following Bill McKibben's "Do The Math" tour stop in Washington, D.C. Sunday, members of 350.org and other activists are marching around the White House urging President Obama to reject the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline.

Following the march, which features a 500-foot mock pipeline, author and 350.org founder Bill McKibben, Sierra Club President Allison Chin and Oklahoma-based environmental leader Earl Hatley plan to speak on the pipeline and encouraged Obama to address climate change.

McKibben recently addressed Washington's inaction on climate change. In an email to HuffPost's Tom Zeller, McKibben wrote, "It's true that D.C. hasn't yet caught on... They're still in the grip of the fossil fuel industry."
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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 23, 2012 5:08:31 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Happy Black Friday.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 12:01:35 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Happy Turkey Day, USA. Safe travels to all.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 5:46:10 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse thanks for posting.
TruthMatters Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,520 Points:532,485 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:46:26 AM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse Militant activists wasting time. It's OK, they have the freedom to speak their minds. Just don't block traffic & infringe on the freedom of the residents of D.C. to move around (like Obama always do on his too numerous visits to NYC)!
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,430 Points:2,228,500 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:11:27 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse 10k - "type away o' intelligent (HA !!) one, cause YOU JUST GOT IGGIED BIG BOY.." I'm sure he's just devastated by your infantile response.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,965 Points:2,343,560 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 4:06:06 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Keystone XL March Follows 'Do The Math' Event In Washington, D.C. If the US federal government does not build the Keystone XL pipeline to the gulf, Big Oil will find a way and build it anyway, 'Do The Math.' Sneeky will continue to oppose the Keystone pipeline, so your are in a dream world if you expect him to approve it. The Keystone XL pipeline is Not in his plans to help the US, the sheep voted him in again so you have to live with it for 'four more years.' OH NO! Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries that will pay more for it, much more than here. The Canadian pipeline will export that refined crude oil (fuel) and natural gas by way of the refineries on the Gulf Coast. There will be NO price reduction or cheaper prices for fuel or natural gas IN the US, so it does NOT matter how much crude oil or natural gas is produced. 'Coming out of the closet' Sneeky's lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the 'jobs' are Not here. Sneeky's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population and the job numbers continue to be down. People will still drive and buy fuel no matter what but it sure helps to have a job too! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
FluffyDogAttack Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,074 Points:95,675 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 2:24:16 AM Ignore FluffyDogAttack Report Abuse "Do the Math" As if these foaming-at-the-mouth nutjobs care about math or reality. If it interferes with their religion of Evironutcase it shall be ignored. Get back to me when AirForce One is able to jet around the world with its solar engines.
charladan All-Star Author Virginia Posts:564 Points:448,015 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:58:24 AM Ignore charladan Report Abuse A greenly biased story form huff and blow. surprise
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,073 Points:795,300 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 1:18:34 AM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse President Obama will be giving us carbon taxes and VAT taxes. That should polish off our economy. Gas won't matter but food will.
DCbeachbum Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,642 Points:902,990 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:47:00 AM Ignore DCbeachbum Report Abuse I do not look to the Rolling Stone Magazine or the Huffington Post to get reliable information.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,240 Points:2,253,045 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:32:29 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse Aviator: you just flunked out-have a great liberal life picking on everyone's else's ideas.. i would love too see your response when your president declares dictatorship, and shuts down forums like this.. type away o' intelligent (HA !!) one, cause YOU JUST GOT IGGIED BIG BOY..
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,476 Points:2,101,040 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:26:38 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Ok obama, let's do something.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,980 Points:2,525,360 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:26:19 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse i don't have any money now
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,649 Points:2,358,995 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:23:19 AM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse The pipeline will only produce more profits and more finished fuels being shipped from our US oil now to other countries.
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:11,465 Points:2,079,785 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:23:03 AM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Uh, Keith Stone says he want's nothing to do with Washington...
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:18:59 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse You won't have any spare change to invest, @ManOfLeisureII, if gas hits $10/gal.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:17:58 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse So tell me, @obimerrill, how big is your personal jet? Feeling a little inadequate?
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:16:56 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse @10k, I hope you tell your kids that answer when they look at you in disbelief and ask why your generation chose not to do anything.
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,435 Points:288,740 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:16:15 AM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse Let the rich tree huggers be the first ones to give up their cars, SUVs, personal jets, etc....then we will see ifntheynreally mean it or if they just want everyone else to not have what they can afford to have if prices go up because of Obama's policies like not approving the Keystone pipeline.
ManOfLeisureII Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,869 Points:453,175 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:15:52 AM Ignore ManOfLeisureII Report Abuse Hope all you left wing nut jobs like $10/gal gasoline....me...I'll just invest some spare change in oil company stocks....
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,971 Points:408,895 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:15:44 AM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse good grief
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:14:42 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse We would prefer that all the right-wing nutjobs would go away too, @frostyWV but unfortunately, that's not how things work. I'm afraid we're stuck with each other. Get used to it.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,240 Points:2,253,045 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:14:15 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse consider the source.. climate change indeed-snicker..chicken little, the sky is falling.. SteelPenny: amen.. [Edited by: 10k at 11/20/2012 12:16:51 AM EST]
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,938 Points:2,605,540 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:14:03 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse ZAero'BOY stopped it and will continue to do so. You had your chance. He's still in D.C.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,615 Points:3,493,730 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:13:36 AM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The pipeline should have been approved last year.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,713 Points:387,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:13:22 AM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse The earth is heating up.
Rooster922 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:3,783 Points:655,095 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:11:20 AM Ignore Rooster922 Report Abuse Here's the keystone again story.
frostyWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:2,339 Points:519,235 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:10:07 AM Ignore frostyWV Report Abuse tree huggers go away.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,931 Points:1,923,530 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:09:43 AM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Build refinery up north where .CA oil comes from. Then ship it to morket, not out to sea!
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Glock26 Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,519 Points:631,410 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:07:47 AM Ignore Glock26 Report Abuse Interesting!!!
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,161 Points:1,928,430 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:07:33 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Aviator Rob .... Good observations.
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:06:25 AM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Sure, @rx7racerca. The U.S. still imports oil or rather Big Oil imports cheaper oil on the global market while selling off more valuable domestic oil on that same market. Meanwhile, they continue to pocket the profit margin that they make in the middle. Why is Big Oil so keen to build pipelines out of the Dakotas and Oklahoma? Because currently they have to sell all that new found tight oil at a discount since they can't get all of it out onto the global market. Exporting that oil drives up the prices of petroleum products in THIS country. And if we have such an excess refining capacity in this country, then why does every little refinery disruption result in a spike in the price of gasoline and diesel? Big Oil is NOT interested in lowering gas prices. They are only interested in maximizing profits. They understand that we the drivers will howl and scream about gas prices but we still continue to fill up.
slkmoo Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,243 Points:327,525 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:05:54 AM Ignore slkmoo Report Abuse yeah whatever
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,176 Points:517,505 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:05:35 AM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse Maybe, maybe not!!!
rx7racerca Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,192 Points:1,111,145 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:58:55 PM Ignore rx7racerca Report Abuse Aviator Rob: the problem is your statement is fundamentally wrong - "big oil" is not exporting crude from the US - the US is a net importer of almost 9 million barrels a day of crude to meet its own needs. Around 1.5 million barrels a day of refined products - mostly gasoline, diesel, and bunker fuel - are exported, which is a reflection of the fact drops in American consumption have left the US with excess refining capacity - those refineries either find new foreign customers, or they shut down. That American refineries are importing oil, and exporting refined products is still a win for America - profits and well-paying jobs are being preserved, and that imported crude that is re-exported as refined products, doesn't change at all the fact the US is a huge oil importer to meet its own needs.
sprocketsplines Champion Author Washington Posts:1,677 Points:859,665 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:58:06 PM Ignore sprocketsplines Report Abuse The US is still in the grip of economic difficulties and a project like the Keystone XL pipeline will go a long ways towards breaking that grip.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,795 Points:412,265 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:57:52 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse "Get a life", @mstearno? Sure, as soon as you get a clue. It wasn't always a point of fact that Big Business had a God-given right to screw their workers and their customers, all in their quest for the almighty dollar. Government used to actually speak for all Americans, not just the ones who funded campaigns and Super-PACs. Government was the brake on boundless greed but the business world bought out our government and now nothing will stand in their way. Meet your new masters.
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southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,590 Points:686,225 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:50:13 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse the math is clear ...dhan
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,061 Points:1,730,260 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:50:07 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse aviator Rob sounds like you want to camp with the 99's get a life if it weren't for major companies creating profits how would there be jobs? could joe blow build and finance an oil rig? how much would the mark up be if a bunch of mom and pops moved gas all around the country or do you think we should all ride bikes to work?
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