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cmgodwin All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:914 Points:281,475 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 10:22:27 PM Ignore cmgodwin Report Abuse Are you ready to go into the financial markets and invest in natural gas? Not just local distribution companies but gas producers. This should be a good time. In the past few years, fracking has spurred the discovery of vast new reserves of natural gas, and gas is a “hot” topic financially. Visit http://www.newsobserver.com for full article

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Are you ready to go into the financial markets and invest in natural gas? Not just local distribution companies but gas producers.

This should be a good time. In the past few years, fracking has spurred the discovery of vast new reserves of natural gas, and gas is a “hot” topic financially.
Visit http://www.newsobserver.com for full article

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bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,810 Points:640,325 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:29:55 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Is anything a surety nowadays?
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,934 Points:751,010 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:49:19 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Heck of a lot safer than cars Amplion. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says that 32310 people died last year in traffic accidents. But more on the subject of this article, most folks just should not be taking on investments such as natural gas without competent supervision.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,756 Points:1,862,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:24:15 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse NATURAL GAS DISASTERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMMON. 2010 San Bruno Eight Dead, 38 houses destroyed 2011 Allentown Five Dead 2012 Indiana TWO DEAD 2012 Colorado Five to Hospital NATURAL GAS IS PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE !!!!!
PathfinderSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,511 Points:1,828,915 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:17:34 PM Ignore PathfinderSC Report Abuse Good Article.
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,838 Points:733,040 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 5:13:41 PM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse Back away from investing in any company drilling for natural gas....This is almost a pure classic example of a market for resources that is breaking the laws of gravity through extreme future hype unsupported by current reality. The prices and units quoted are not necessarily the prices and units you should be looking at. Natural Gas is slightly higher than the all-time lows in recent years, due to an immense glut. Essentially there is no place left to store the excess, and companies HAVE to sell it now for whatever they can get to maintain cash flow, until the price goes up, when ways to absolve the excess kick in. Like wholesale new natural gas powered electricity plants replacing most/all of the coal fires plants. Like wholesale adoption of natural gas as a vehicle fuel. That will takes years and take hundreds of $billions if not $trillions to do all the changeovers. Not a good thing for the companies, which are bleeding cash right now because...it actually costs more to get it and distribute it than they are getting for it. Much more. This disconnect is not a picayune matter either. If it is selling under $3.00 per Million BTUs retail, when the companies themselves figure the breakeven point is $4.00, that is one thing and that is bad enough. BUT, if the real breakeven cost, not the 'assumed up until now because we didn't have accurate longterm data' cost, is at the at LEAST $6.50 to $7.50 at Henry Hub, then gas companies/drilling companies are going to suffer an immense round of crash/retrenchment/bankruptcy over several years. Dividends will dry up too when coffers are empty and reality bites. Facts trump hype any day. Well, eventually they do in any bubble. If you really want to know why it has to be higher priced--which will slow adoption for uses like cars to a crawl--then you can start here: http://www.beg.utexas.edu/energyecon/ and download and read the paper The Outlook for U.S. Gas Prices in 2020: Henry at $3 or $10? The Oxford Institute for Energy Studies, NG 58, December 2011 Careful--its about 100 pages, and there is enough science, math and fact to upset dozens of 10 second feel-good soundbites. [Edited by: orphancarguyPE at 11/18/2012 5:17:26 PM EST]
hmw10284 Champion Author California Posts:1,127 Points:195,275 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 3:39:16 PM Ignore hmw10284 Report Abuse Nice things to consider. However right now is a good time to invest because the prices of stocks are down and many of these companies dividends are yielding in the 10% range. Some better.
amerk73 Champion Author Dallas Posts:7,040 Points:1,619,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:06:12 PM Ignore amerk73 Report Abuse time for natural gas
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,290 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:52:08 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse Language man there has been no good time for speculators to invest. If you buy real NG your storage costs as you wait for the price to go up would be about $1/mmbtu right now. We need to kick out the JPMorgans, Galdman Sachs , Morgan Stanley's Black Rock etc out of the futures markets to bring stability.
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,142 Points:1,296,270 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 10:57:42 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse old adage - when everyone is talking about an investment it's time to run
bruin19MD Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,062 Points:163,560 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 10:21:45 AM Ignore bruin19MD Report Abuse good article, makes me think. thanks for posting.
merlinCO Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,630 Points:339,445 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:43:49 AM Ignore merlinCO Report Abuse That is exactly what the market needs, novice speculators to lose their money to the rich and power hungery big oil companies.
peabeax55 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:713 Points:185,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:32:31 AM Ignore peabeax55 Report Abuse Tacodan......">>NATURAL GAS IS PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE !!!!! And how many people have died from electical fires ! OK! Wow! so are cars and gasoline and candles and firecrackers and rattlesnakes and stairs and motorcycles and ..... Your comment is the most lame I have ever seen...... so you propose living in a padded cell back in the stoneage by yourself
peabeax55 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:713 Points:185,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:27:27 AM Ignore peabeax55 Report Abuse Get speculators the heck out. prices are still cheap keep it that way. Now.....develop more uses and infrastructure.
skempton Champion Author Vermont Posts:1,134 Points:837,210 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:59:16 AM Ignore skempton Report Abuse Too late for a killing.
farmboyTN Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,253 Points:447,380 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:21:12 AM Ignore farmboyTN Report Abuse ok
gs7101 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,513 Points:387,470 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:18:25 AM Ignore gs7101 Report Abuse Thanks for the heads-up!
deputydog082 Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,775 Points:658,390 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:07:35 AM Ignore deputydog082 Report Abuse anytime the people are told its a good time to invest - it's usually NOT!
scu227 Champion Author New Haven Posts:4,141 Points:769,930 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:05:03 AM Ignore scu227 Report Abuse We don't need more speculators !!!!!
Tacodan Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,309 Points:652,260 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:04:15 AM Ignore Tacodan Report Abuse >>NATURAL GAS IS PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE !!!!! And how many people have died from electical fires !
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,712 Points:1,659,840 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:48:34 AM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse The real time to invest was earlier this year or even last year when prices were extremely low and you'd have made well over 40% to 100% or more already on your money. It's most likely a good investment play though. Was considering it myself. I'm thinking for the long term it's a good play. For the shorter term, prices should be down again, then it'll be an even better play to buy on the way back up for a better profit. It all depends on where you invest in it though, whether the commodity, the stocks related to it or the funds related to it. [Edited by: LanguageMan1 at 11/18/2012 7:51:58 AM EST]
OTISFL Champion Author Pensacola Posts:4,600 Points:863,865 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:31:35 AM Ignore OTISFL Report Abuse Not taking this as any official advice.
Ltdc Champion Author Long Island Posts:7,205 Points:1,675,920 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:51:22 AM Ignore Ltdc Report Abuse Stay away from commodities unless you really know your stuff.
Rockyguitar Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,557 Points:1,200,820 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:48:05 AM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Not sure I'd jump on this bandwagon.
slgas Champion Author Houston Posts:6,020 Points:1,560,590 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:40:14 AM Ignore slgas Report Abuse Hopefully you're using a more complete and honored source than this for your financial advice.
MImusicman Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,863 Points:405,725 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:00:20 AM Ignore MImusicman Report Abuse Nice title
Wally3023 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,024 Points:538,405 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 5:48:35 AM Ignore Wally3023 Report Abuse Buy low and hold
BIGOILEATURCRUD Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,755 Points:1,376,550 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 5:37:03 AM Ignore BIGOILEATURCRUD Report Abuse I like more liquidity!
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:8,744 Points:1,850,420 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 4:45:13 AM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse I have natural gas central heat but I use electric heaters cause it costs less after tracking the cost for either after 7 years.
angel4me Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,814 Points:793,795 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 4:01:44 AM Ignore angel4me Report Abuse perhaps..........
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,371 Points:757,095 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 3:53:48 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse Time to build the CNG infrastructure.
jamofsocal All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:931 Points:228,210 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 3:06:33 AM Ignore jamofsocal Report Abuse Interesting. The model indicates that we have a surplus of natural gas which should drive down the cost of energy. But that would hurt revenues, so how does that help energy investments?
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:5,414 Points:1,095,180 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:11:26 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas and still barely use it. Pitiful.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,451 Points:1,882,940 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:00:53 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse It will always be something
GDAE Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,140 Points:218,950 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:55:02 AM Ignore GDAE Report Abuse My wife thinks I have too much gas already...
graceman Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,968 Points:1,158,725 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:40:20 AM Ignore graceman Report Abuse If only I had the spare cash.
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,991 Points:740,650 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:40:00 AM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse The average investor should stay clear of natural gas
raja29 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:983 Points:196,640 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:16:35 AM Ignore raja29 Report Abuse nope.....
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,720 Points:413,800 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:14:06 AM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Nope not investing
Melinda205 Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,824 Points:356,865 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:09:52 AM Ignore Melinda205 Report Abuse Okay
joeschmo12 Champion Author New York Posts:1,011 Points:304,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:04:05 AM Ignore joeschmo12 Report Abuse interesting
TXRanger09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,502 Points:890,220 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:54:04 AM Ignore TXRanger09 Report Abuse Seems there is more than a few big rig manufacturers that are bettiNG large that NG is the way.
bills299 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,356 Points:902,540 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:51:52 AM Ignore bills299 Report Abuse I am not sure about this one!
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,349 Points:648,640 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:45:36 AM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse Wait and see.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,756 Points:1,862,360 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:43:43 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse NATURAL GAS DISASTERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COMMON. 2010 San Bruno Eight Dead, 38 houses destroyed 2011 Allentown Five Dead 2012 Indiana TWO DEAD 2012 Colorado Five to Hospital NATURAL GAS IS PROVEN TO BE UNSAFE !!!!!
Vetteblu Champion Author Denver Posts:2,665 Points:778,870 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:39:32 AM Ignore Vetteblu Report Abuse This article is too punny.
uglytom Champion Author Florida Posts:7,464 Points:1,542,015 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:36:08 AM Ignore uglytom Report Abuse No.
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,010 Points:1,187,075 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:15:29 AM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse Always like that
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,510 Points:1,668,385 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:14:36 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Scams exist in all these markets.
7SPEEDY7 Champion Author Flint Posts:1,281 Points:603,725 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:13:00 AM Ignore 7SPEEDY7 Report Abuse Interesting
Beaveronparade Champion Author Hartford Posts:2,102 Points:633,365 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:12:49 AM Ignore Beaveronparade Report Abuse I wouldn't invest my money just yet.