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Hannie59

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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 5:35:08 PM

Those Iowans are smarter than the average bear.

E85 sales in Iowa finished strong in 2013 setting a fourth quarter record at 2,784,326 gallons, up more than 67 percent from fourth quarter 2012 and an increase of more than 700,000 gallons from the previous fourth quarter record in 2010.

“Record Iowa E85 sales prove the federal Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) is working as intended, and the EPA should not reverse course on the policy as they have proposed,” stated IRFA Policy Director Grant Menke. “By choosing homegrown E85 at record levels, Iowans are saving more money at the pump, making our air healthier to breathe, helping to reduce our dependence on imported foreign oil, and boosting Iowa’s economy. E85 is currently being sold at more than a $1 discount to regular gasoline at the wholesale level, making for some very attractive E85 prices for consumers across the state. But for this trend of record E85 sales to continue, we need a strong and growing RFS.” Read more here



[Edited by: Hannie59 at 2/20/2014 5:37:48 PM EST]
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: May 24, 2014 8:25:05 AM

It is the corn state
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Pitbull1
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Message Posted: May 20, 2014 10:26:33 AM

Keep it going! I buy as much as I can. Tired of oil companies. Nice to give to the farmers!
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: May 12, 2014 9:56:52 AM

I do not have any vehicles that are E-85 compatable. I really do not have any interest in it.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: May 12, 2014 6:36:26 AM

We'll see if I can help E85 sales in Iowa again today. Price spread may not be wide enough.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 5:18:12 AM

Sales will go up as the price spread will get much larger in the coming months.
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thuathienhue
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 1:05:28 AM

Grain is for food not fuel
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tklsr
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 9:18:28 PM

so?
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 11:34:38 AM

Burned some more this week. Worked just fine. Still buying E85 at 17-20% less than gasohol. That way I maintain the same cost per mile.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 10:38:10 AM

GOOD FOR THEM
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noonedwagfan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 9:07:45 AM

What do you expect from a corn state!!!
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merlinCO
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 8:26:00 AM

More More More
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jeff95519
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 5:44:36 AM

E-0 for me
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 3:35:16 AM

Even around here E85 is $1.00 per gallon cheaper.
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Wanderer417
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:12:16 AM

No accounting for the common sense of sheeple.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:06:27 AM

In Iowa, it figures.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 2:42:55 PM

Running up the E85 usage in Iowa. Keep that gas price up. I'll keep burning E85.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 2:41:43 PM

I currently have a $2.50 average cost in my gas tank. How about you?
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TomB2
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 1:25:57 PM

I guess that makes Iowans smart because they are major producers of corn. It's funny though, in my area most people are rejecting E-85 because it costs nearly the same amount per gallon as E-10. E-85 stations are drying up quickly around here. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one remaining outlet.

[Edited by: TomB2 at 3/8/2014 1:26:45 PM EST]
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 12:02:44 PM

Under the current price trends, I will continue to use E85 in the company pickup. My current prices let me save about 2 cents per mile in fuel costs. That is substantial.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 7:23:17 AM

"Guess what that plant makes a profit , where do you think it goes ....well into the owners pocket , no thought of paying the taxpayers back. "

OK, so you buy into the capitalism is bad propaganda. Regardless, ethanol plants produce billions in INCREMENTAL tax revenue. Like most businesses, the majority of revenue goes to the employees as salary. That salary is taxed. The resultant tax revenue overshadows any grant extended by the US government.

Lastly, when does a tax payer ever get "paid back"? With the exception of low income individuals, the IRS wins.
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barryo62
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 11:36:31 AM

To Cactusbobs where do terrorist groups in the middle east get their funding?
Where did the 911 hijackers get their money?
Does ethanol money go to terrorist?
How about the troops killed and hurt in foreign countries fighting over oil interest and all USA taxpayer money to fund military operations overseas?
Who pays the families of dead soldiers or wounded veteran?

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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 5:25:35 PM

CactusBobs wrote: "the RFS is nothing but a tax , when ever you mandate a product be used that normally does not need to be used , IT'S A TAX"

No, it is not. Am I surprised that you do not understand the difference, not one bit.

CactusBobs wrote: "The one Ethanol plant here in Arizona was built with a federal grant....where do you think that money comes from ?"

How is one Ethanol plant in Arizona related to E85 sales in Iowa?
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 5:05:21 AM

Bob, if you do not like ethanol, that is your choice. Some of us like ethanol, and that is our choice. So please leave us alone.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 10:58:05 PM

Hannie59 : you and people like you are why "Ethanol people" have no credibility, you go around living life with blinders on

Ethanol is nothing but special deals and tax breaks !

the RFS is nothing but a tax , when ever you mandate a product be used that normally does not need to be used , IT'S A TAX

The one Ethanol plant here in Arizona was built with a federal grant....where do you think that money comes from ?
the corn that feeds it comes into Arizona via rail , some sort of green grant or tax pays for part or all of the transportation costs (it's hard to pin down these guys are slick and hide the govt waste at every turn )
when they got done bulding the plant they found the waste product had no market here , so the county of Pinal built them a landfill of there very own !!!!!!!!
add in new water lines to a remote location (because the plant stinks) and no property taxes for 20 years.
So welcome to Ethanol brought to you by pure evil and greed .

Guess what that plant makes a profit , where do you think it goes ....well into the owners pocket , no thought of paying the taxpayers back.

ONK,ONK,OIK GOES THE LITTLE PIGGY WITH ALL THAT FREE MONEY.

Ethanol has been a money sucker for years and years , they try to hide it. There always finding new ways to get that FREE MONEY.

Don't get me wrong , i don't hate Ethanol , i just don't want to pay for it in any way , under the table or at the pumps

there are endless examples of other pet projects and waste. like
sports stadiums and endless wars around the world to protect big oil
the "bullying" we do to around the world to protect the petro-dollar system

So Ethanol is not the only bad guy or even the biggest bad guy , but there still just another bad guy

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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 4:40:20 PM

bobs, you have not paid a penny to support Iowa, you have it wrong. Iowa's E-85 is not supported by tax dollars. It is supported by consumers now. The price difference is just that, the price difference. It just costs more to get the stuff to you.

This article mentions RFS but I do not think that's going to be around much longer. When it goes, your gasoline is gonna cost much more too.

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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 4:01:54 PM

the EPA should be working for all of us not just Iowa !

the RFS was bad policy then and it still is

where i live the only reason Ethanol is cheaper that gasoline is because it has less road tax on it
otherwise it would be more expensive than gasoline
this was all part of a great deal between Ethanol producers , the EPA and our "great" governor Janet Napolitano

too bad the public had nothing to say about it .....

the RFS has to go , i am tired of supporting Iowa .
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 7:22:28 AM

ScottAdams, come on man. E-85 is priced well below gasoline in Iowa. And many other areas of this nation. I'll say it again, when you realize all the advantages of E-85 over gas, including price (for most people, it actually boils down to price.... cost per mile), then yes I'll say it again, Iowans are not fooled by propaganda like you are. They are pretty smart based on those E-85 sales figures. And they are saving money as well as doing alot more good for the economy, the environment, and their awesome state :)

[Edited by: Hannie59 at 2/22/2014 7:24:35 AM EST]
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 3:48:45 AM

"Reducing fuel economy and spending more to travel the same distance is not smart."

With a bogus statement like that you really have to wonder who is smart.
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ScottAdams5
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2014 12:15:26 AM

Reducing fuel economy and spending more to travel the same distance is not smart.
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