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emmettgalloway

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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2013 8:30:08 AM

"the best laid schemes of mice and men oft go astray"
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/11/26/corn-based-ethanol.aspx?e_cid=20131126Z1A_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20131126Z1A&et_cid=DM34148&et_rid=349545662
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blk911
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2014 2:44:10 AM

Liberals YUK!!!
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twt
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 3:51:24 AM

I agree, with bikermannc
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bikemannc
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2014 9:27:27 PM

Yuppers there surely is a butt load of things driving up the cost of living and using corn especially the pure,precleaned variety they require up here in NC is a waste of most farmers' time to qualify for; and most do not. It's all a huge waste of time and BTUs we could be using to convince our leaders to pass the drill here kind of laws or repeal them that cause us to buy oil from our basic enemies instead of Bakken variety oil and that from CO. You can investigate the cost of building or surveying a few old timers here that used to run moonshine how to build your own sourmash still, reconvert your car to operate on the non-vacummed produced E95 variety and see if it's worth your time and expense. I have and I'm still using gasoline. I even know how to research producing what everyone or pretty much anyone can make of their own natural methane gas, check out what alot of so called third world ppl make them selves in India daily. Getting it pressurized is the biggest problem. But being American I think that could be easily over come with a deal worked out between two to three local ppl or business ppl. And then you can really use our 'green' energy with all the red meat/pork/chicken and turkey produced manure that's over running their dykes daily and polluting the local water supplies. Maybe an American depression is what most of us that have gotten used to the 'convience' of American living need to get out and do for ourselves again on a daily basis. WakeUp! the Feds never did care about you, care about yourselves and your neighbors before there is an America.
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magpie2013
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2014 8:03:05 PM

I really agree with rumbleseat, his answer was nicer than mine would have been. To bad some can't look things up for themselves. Those that do do those that don't ask or make lame statements.
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coffeerage
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2013 5:02:14 PM

Eating is unethical because it raises the price of food and millions are starving overseas because of your actions.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2013 4:29:43 AM

Toxic gasoline has many more negative effects.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2013 9:31:27 AM

Eating food is unethical because it raises the price of food and millions are starving overseas because of your actions.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 3:25:47 PM

Drinking ethanol is unethical because it raises the price of food and millions are starving overseas because of your actions.
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handymanherb
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 3:16:20 PM

Unless it comes in quart jars I don't need it, if I want Ethaol I drink it

[Edited by: handymanherb at 12/5/2013 3:15:51 PM EST]
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minookaband
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 11:07:44 AM

ethanol use has many negatives effects..
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2013 3:41:58 AM

Thanks for the comment rumbleseat.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 5:46:34 PM

Well, Mertie, we have this new-fangled thing up here in Canada, maybe someday you will get it in Kentucky, called the interweeb, or something like that, it lets you actually look up things without going to the library! Amazing, right?
USA Corn Exports
As of November 21, 2013.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 2:10:26 PM

Well said, Banjoe!
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Banjoe
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2013 8:09:12 AM

rumbleseat - in these days of instant information and unlimited internet access, how can you know anything that happening in a country that's 60 miles away from you?

Well, maybe if you read, do research, investigate myths, check facts, learn, make intelligent decisions, rack up thoughtful experiences, and even try to develop meaningful debate.

Other than that, I don't see how you could possibly know what's going on outside your house.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 11:41:20 AM

How to perpetuate myths:
Visit an online ethanol forum, post an oil industry talking point ("all ethanol does is raise the cost of food!"), then run away without discussing.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2013 12:53:59 PM

zippy3231 wrote: "All the use of Ethanol has done is drive up the cost of Food!"

How exactly is Ethanol driving up the cost of food? How about the cost of transportation? How about inflation?
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2013 9:02:14 AM

How do you know what the USA has done, you live in Maple Leaf Country, Canada.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2013 6:31:14 AM

"All the use of Ethanol has done is drive up the cost of Food!"

Horse-pucky! Transportation is a far greater factor.
Get rid of ethanol and you have to import more oil.
There is a surplus of corn, and the US exports a huge tonnage.
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zippy3231
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2013 5:38:16 AM

All the use of Ethanol has done is drive up the cost of Food!
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RS101
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2013 8:02:56 PM

True......so true
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2013 4:32:03 AM

""five million acres of conservation land have disappeared"

Since when is it better to pay farmers to not raise crops on their lands? If a farmer wants to let his land lay idle and grow only weeds, that is his choice. If he chooses to grow crops, that is also his choice.

Emmettgalloy, it is really none of your business if a farmer chooses to plant or not.

[Edited by: goldseeker at 11/27/2013 4:32:57 AM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2013 11:14:51 AM

Emmetgalloway, try this:

The Environmental Costs of Corn-Based Ethanol
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2013 9:29:55 AM

"60 remaining years of topsoil"
"five million acres of conservation land have disappeared"

So scary!!!

LOL @ the general person's understanding of CRP acres. Do you realize that CRP acres were, by definition, previously cropland, and could be converted back into CRP within 1 year?

Articles like this like to imply that 5 million acres of pristine rainforest full of monkeys and toucans have been irreversibly plowed into cornfields. Take a trip to the midwest and you'll see what a CRP acre looks like. It's a grass field with a fence around it. It's a farm field with grass instead of crops.

I'm a liberal person but this is getting extremist about environmentalism.

Ethanol and other biofuels are the ONLY real world competitor to fossil fuels, and fossil fuels are ruining the planet faster than anything else humanity can control. Biofuel technology improves every day, and is essentially a form of solar energy, the only source of NEW energy introduced to our planet on a reliable basis. Do you want to invest in the improving industry of biofuels, or shut it down and wait for the oil to run out (or reach $300/barrel)?
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