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Shayan7

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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 1:56:31 AM

There have been a few changes in Kinder, La 70648 recently. The Kinder Fast Stop has been changed to Quick Stop on 708 1st Ave Kinder, LA 70648. (337) 738-4765 The Quick Stop has an ATM, a Deli, Pizzas, and no Ethanol in their gas. Which means it is 100% gasoline! Also, please add this new station Chadeaux's Cajun Kitchen on 14440 U.S. 165 South Kinder, LA 70648. (337) 738-3040 cross street is 2nd Ave. They also have no ethanol in their gas. The best boudin and cracklins around. They have so many types of sausages, rabbits, quails, etc. They also have an ATM and Deli.
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khp33
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2014 10:54:50 AM

Yes I agree.
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litesong
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Message Posted: May 30, 2014 9:55:30 PM

Update & repeating, to show that is vital, now increasing its 100% ethanol free gas stations to 8015:........From December 2013: They've compiled 7600+ sources of 100% gasoline with details about octanes available, phone numbers, & a cool searchable map! This is a volunteer data website, run by one person. So the data which is becoming extraordinarily large, depends on caring, truthful, & accurate volunteers. So pitch in & make it even more accurate.....the majority of cars drop 5% to 8+% in mpg when switched to 10% ethanol blends...... low compression ratio gasoline engines need (100%) gasoline to burn efficiently. Ethanol needs high compression ratio ethanol engines(like INDY cars) to run efficiently. Its that simple. Ethanol in gasoline engines cannot provide efficient power.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: May 28, 2014 9:40:51 AM

ncsusousa wrote: "Ethanol can damage rubber fuel lines in systems not designed for it - like on boats."

Strange since all the chemical compatibility/resistance experts rate Ethanol excellent when it comes to interaction with natural rubber. On the other hand, other commonly used chemicals in gasoline such as Benzene, Toluene, or Xylene, fail miserably.

Here is one example, Chemical Compatibility Database
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ncsusousa
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Message Posted: May 28, 2014 9:20:37 AM

Ethanol can damage rubber fuel lines in systems not designed for it - like on boats. Some of the stations around Jordan Lake have 'non-ethanol' pumps. They usually are only selling 87 octane and it's at the same price as 97 octane gas with ethanol.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 24, 2014 3:49:25 AM

"I heard that Ethanol can damage the engine. Is that true?"

Not likely. I have been using ethanol blended fuel for about 30 years in all my engines with no issues.
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dietpepsiman
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 1:00:25 PM

I heard that Ethanol can damage the engine. Is that true?
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billy44bo
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 9:37:59 AM

The only thing is the stations that sale you ethanol free gas are sticking you with a higher price because they can. Not a lot of places selling it.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 3:29:03 AM

Buy ethanol and save 20 cents or more per gallon.
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borsht
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Message Posted: May 23, 2014 12:46:19 AM

For all intents and purposes, ethanol free gasoline is not available in California for automobiles.
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hockeybabe25
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Message Posted: May 19, 2014 5:20:17 PM

http://pure-gas.org/

ethanol-free stations
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 16, 2014 2:01:55 AM

"Ethanol just makes are gas cost more, as well as our food."
"Look at what a box of breakfast food cost now."

Two false statements for sure. One more and you are out.
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BAJALRRP
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Message Posted: May 15, 2014 11:13:11 PM

Would like to see some sort of national listing.
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APlus
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 5:26:15 PM

well one place with ethanol free gas
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streetdesign
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 12:47:19 PM

I have not seen ethanol free gas in the Chicago are so it must be very limited or does not exist here. I'm all for banning ethanol.
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BAJALRRP
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 11:34:20 AM

Where I live, the ethanol free gas costs more....but my small engine machines are worth it.
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hockeybabe25
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2014 9:49:30 PM

wish there was a pure station within a reasonable drive
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2014 10:53:06 AM

ugly46 wrote: "Ethanol just makes are gas cost more, as well as our food.
Look at what a box of breakfast food cost now."

Yet, you fail to provide any supporting facts. Why is that?

[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 3/29/2014 10:54:28 AM EST]
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ugly46
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2014 11:09:54 AM

When are we going to stop burning our food.
Ethanol just makes are gas cost more, as well as our food.
Look at what a box of breakfast food cost now.
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bimmergary
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2014 5:49:35 PM

http://www.pure-gas.org has an android app.
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Kruilty
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 6:13:08 AM

The best we can do is to go back to Hemp and other seed oils as fuels. Ford and Diesel didnt intend autos to run on gas. Ford built his first car from hemp and it ran on hemp. Diesel's first engine was run on seed oils ( hemp ). But big oil pushed the politicians to ban hemp products and hemp fuels. Because it would make the farmers rich. <<Their own words, in govt documents. Get back to the old ways. Simple living.

[Edited by: Kruilty at 3/5/2014 6:15:47 AM EST]
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kennyman
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 6:06:17 PM

Nice, maybee we will see more no ethanol gas stations. But are we being told the truth when govt requires 10 or 15 % ethanol put into the gas how can they sell no ethanol gas ? Gutsy move if its true.
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coffeerage
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 6:18:22 PM

Bring it to Las Vegas. Ethanol sucks!
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 1:04:38 AM

Bring on the ethanol. We need it in every station in America.
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aalix
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2014 8:02:34 PM

We don't have ethanol free gas in California. But looks like they are phasing out ethanol.
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2014 1:28:20 PM

I average 1-2 MPG better without ethanol in my 2010 Silverado. I purchase ethanol free gasoline whenever I can.
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probedjg2013
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2014 8:59:15 AM

what no ethanol please
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GasEnergy
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2014 6:38:48 PM

Wait...doesn't ethanol help the engine to run more clean. And does it not help our farmers to grow the corn for it?
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peregrin
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 10:24:05 PM

get the corn outta my tank!
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Tony4150
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 6:47:24 PM

Several have popped up lately in NC. I see more all the time.
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bluenvoy
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 9:38:23 AM

Too far away from me. Try your local forum.
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namzza6310
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 5:02:39 PM

finding less and less
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RS101
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2014 9:37:13 PM

ok
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kennyman
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 8:07:14 PM

Ok.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2013 5:39:33 PM

So forum posts aren't allowed to evolve? Seems harsh.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2013 7:23:43 PM

Wanda127:

I'm not sure that letting Shayan7, who started this thread about changes to one local gas station somewhere in Texas, will find information about where you get gas for your boat motor very useful, even if Shayany7 said he was looking for places to get gas (which isn't what he was writing about).

People: Read the original post again. Shayan7 is not/not asking about where to get gas or asking about the benefits of non-ethanol versus ethanol fuel.
All he's doing is letting you know that one isolated gas station has changed names and what facilities/services that one gas station provides.
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Wanda127
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2013 8:54:36 AM

Citgo in Port Charlotte carries Ethanol Free fuel & even though it's about .75 cents a gal higher we go there to get gas for our boat motor.
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mojo803
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Message Posted: Dec 16, 2013 1:09:26 AM

Trees Love CO2
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Ply440GTX
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2013 2:12:12 AM

www.pure-gas.org

Check there...
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minookaband
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 11:06:15 AM

we need more stations that are ethanol-free in illinois!
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litesong
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 10:20:16 PM

How come no one's mentioned ? They've compiled 7600+ sources of 100% gasoline with details about octanes available, phone numbers, & a cool searchable map! This is a volunteer data website, run by one person. So the data which is becoming extraordinary depends on caring, truthful, & accurate volunteers. So pitch in & make it even more accurate. If a driver uses 10% ethanol blends & accurately finds a 10% drop in mpg, the ethanol is providing no additional energy to move your car. Granted, that is a low percentage of cars. However, the majority of cars drop 5% to 8+% in mpg when switched to 10% ethanol blends. So most drivers are seeing a gallon of ethanol provide less than 1/3rd to 2/3rds the energy engine output of a gallon of 100% gasoline. You see, low compression ratio gasoline engines need gasoline to burn efficiently. Ethanol needs high compression ratio ethanol engines(like INDY cars) to run efficiently. Its that simple. Ethanol in gasoline engines cannot provide efficient power.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 9:34:24 AM

Check the public USDA historical data on land use and you'll see that cropland is down, parks & public areas up, ungrazed forest up.

As for the "ancient carbon" comment, it's simply a reference to carbon sequestered underground as oil which is brought to the surface and burned, creating new CO2. If we're going to get serious about sequestering carbon in the ground maybe we could start by leaving the ancient ooze where it is and work on technologies that recycle the CO2 already in our atmosphere. Yes it's true that a cornfield does not sequester CO2 during the winter, but in the spring/summer, it pulls it back in. A time chart of this would look like a wave oscillating between an upper and lower value, but never rising beyond the upper value. This is what we'd see naturally anyways in climates where virtually everything green stops aspirating during the cold months. This is also not a problem in the way the introduction of new carbon is. You could visualize that by a single line slowly rising and never falling.

Also consider that the CRP land "raped" by corn farmers can be converted back to CRP acres at any point, re-sequestering the same amount of CO2 it originally held. Again, and up/down trend, not an accumulative trend.

You don't need to be a chemist to understand this.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 3:12:31 AM

"What about the pastures, forests, and other conservation areas which have been plowed for corn?"

It is obvious that some people do not have a clue. In my lifetime I can not remember a farmer anywhere in this country cutting down a forest. Hmmm, I suppose it is all right for the oil companies to level a forest the size of Florida in Alberta.

Pastures? Farmers have been rotating pasture lands for decades in and out of other crops.

Conservation areas???? An outright false statement.

Like I have said. Some people do not have a clue.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 3:11:00 AM

The percentage of C14 vs C12 in the atmosphere is extremely small.
I was wondering why the mention of 'ancient CO2'.
Is the question scientific, philosophical?

Petroleum will have virtually zero C14.
Ethanol will have very little C14.
It is always just a trace amount.
C14 has a half life of a little over 5000 years. It is so small in petroleum, that it cannot be measured accurately.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 2:36:09 AM

What is 'ancient' CO2?
Where do we get new CO2?
Is it from new C and new O2?
Is it from the same place as ancient H2O?

[Edited by: borsht at 12/4/2013 2:37:28 AM EST]
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2013 12:47:16 AM

"Better than either is a vehicle run on 10% ethanol, because biofuel releases only as much CO2 as was pulled from the atmosphere to grow the feedstock."

What about the CO2 that is not being captured during the non-growing seasons when ethanol corn fields lie dead? Exposing soil?

What about the pastures, forests, and other conservation areas which have been plowed for corn? Before ethanol these lands captured CO2 year round and almost never gave up that CO2 back to the atmosphere.
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tklsr
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 4:42:38 PM

We need ethanol free fuel in Akron, Ohio.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 3:54:44 PM

A vehicle run on pure gasoline brings an incredible amount of ancient CO2 into the atmosphere. An electric car introduces just as much, if not more, given that the vast majority of electricity comes from burning coal.

Better than either is a vehicle run on 10% ethanol, because biofuel releases only as much CO2 as was pulled from the atmosphere to grow the feedstock.

Even better: A flex-fuel vehicle run on E85.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 3:51:31 PM

Grumpycat used the term "ethanol contaminated gasoline". It's actually pure clean, good for your engine ethanol contaminated with 90% gasoline.

Don't waste time looking for pure gasoline, it's worse for your car, and more expensive.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 3:32:55 PM

"Is there a way to verify there is no ethanol?"

There are test kits around for $10 or so. Basically you only need a test tube or similar container. Fill with about 9 parts questionable gasoline, 1 part water. Note the separation point. Shake. When it settles note the new separation point. If it appears to have more water than it did before then the fuel has ethanol. If the fuel is milky in color then that too is an indication of ethanol.

What you get when you buy a test kit is a test tube marked so as to quantify how much ethanol was in the gasoline.

When more water is present than ethanol can suspend in the fuel then both water and ethanol fall out of the gasoline. This is one of the big problems in extended storage of ethanol contaminated gasoline. Pure gasoline suspends very very little water. Normally water immediately settles in the bottom of the tank. Ethanol can carry enough water in suspension to make your engine run very poorly. More water causes separation to occur making the problem visible. Some advocate treatments to rejoin the water and ethanol with the gasoline as a "solution" but thats just forcing the water through the engine.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 3:21:57 PM

I have found an nationwide (spreading worldwide) chain of ethanol-free filling stations!

Map and details here!
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