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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2013 7:13:37 PM

"One week after the U.S. EPA finalized the 2013 volume requirements for the renewable fuels standard (RFS), the American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers and American Petroleum Institute are already gearing up to fight the 2014 RFS standards. The EPA has not yet proposed volume requirements for 2014."
Big Oil already pushing for partial waiver of 2014 RFS volume
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 3:02:25 PM

Shockjock1961 wrote: "Remove the ethanol mandate and you are likely to see LOWER gas prices..."

Please explain to me how the gas prices would be lower in Chicago area, where you live, without the ethanol mandate. Do you even have a clue?
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 12:13:18 PM

"Remove the Ethanol and everyone will be complaining about the higher price of fuel"

Remove the ethanol mandate and you are likely to see LOWER gas prices...

"Then when we are all running mostly E85 the price of gasoline will fall"

Sorry, we are incapable of proving enough ethanol to allow a small fraction of the cars on the road to run on E85, let alone "all" of us...

[Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 10/15/2013 12:14:40 PM EST]
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itaz
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 11:07:19 AM

the gas prices are too much.
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namzza6310
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 9:19:44 AM

Remove the Ethanol and everyone will be complaining about the higher price of fuel. We need more E85 cars and stations. Then when we are all running mostly E85 the price of gasoline will fall.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2013 12:03:06 AM

correction : that was not hockeybabe25 that had a problem with ethanol in an older car it was "OceanArcher"

sorry about any pain this may have caused
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 10:51:31 PM

Darwinfinch : how do you know what "hockeybabe25 " drives ?

I have found in my world most cars that are 20 years old or older and still on the road are in better shape than cars that are less than 20 years old
so junker is just not accurate in most cases around here

as far as the topic at hand , i would support any move to any reduction in Ethanol from present mandates
Ethanol should be a choice not a mandate


[Edited by: CactusBobs at 10/14/2013 10:53:51 PM EST]
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 5:02:42 PM

Whoa... you can fairly claim that ethanol doesn't work well in your 1962 junkers but saying that ethanol is not good "for most cars" is overboard.
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hockeybabe25
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 3:39:19 PM

good- ethanol is not good for most cars... and, any gas with ethanol cannot be used in light aircraft- makes flying those more expensive too!
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 12:49:30 PM

High ethanol percentages don't work well in my older cars
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2013 9:11:21 AM

Big Oil wants the higher gas prices while keeping the bigger chunk for themselves.

[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 10/13/2013 9:13:52 AM EST]
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 2:33:00 AM

Figures. They want it all for themselves.
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aRBy
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:53:23 PM

Oil companies are scared. That's a good thing.

At the end of the day, the only thing we can do is buy more ethanol based fuel; especially E85.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:13:50 AM

Looks like they "pushed" hard:
EPA proposes big reduction in 2014 ethanol blend volume -document
"The proposal, if ultimately approved, would be a significant victory for U.S. oil companies, which have been lobbying regulators and Congress to cut biofuel blending mandates, which had been eating into their market share."
They had time to push get this out during the government shutdown, but "A spokeswoman for the EPA was not immediately able to comment on the documents, and said that due to the government shutdown she may not be able to provide a rapid reply." How convenient.
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