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Boyrr

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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 9:13:25 AM

Anyone using it? What results have you seen?

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duybn
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2013 12:10:13 AM

have to try again.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 1:45:03 PM

Hannie59, thank you for providing the link to "WHITE PAPER: PETROLEUM PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND DISCUSSION OF THE USE OF ETHANOL BLENDED GASOLINE". It contains a lot of educational information and here is a small sample:

"Auto manufacturers have indicated they do not have major concerns about metal corrosion, provided that all fuels contain effective corrosion inhibitors at the proper treatment levels. Responsible ethanol producers recognize that not all commercial gasolines are adequately treated for blending, and have, for some time, included a corrosion inhibitor in their ethanol.

Elastomer compatibility is more difficult to generalize. A number of gasoline ingredients can have an effect on elastomer swelling and deterioration. For instance, aromatics, such as benzene, toluene, and xylene, have been shown to have detrimental effects on some fuel system elastomers. Gasolines sold today have a higher level of aromatics than those sold decades ago.

Although the addition of ethanol to gasoline causes swelling in nitrile rubber fuel hoses, swelling is relatively insignificant with ethanol blends in modern vehicles. Ten volume percent ethanol contributes less swelling than the amount of additional aromatics needed to obtain the same increase in octane number. The combination of ethanol with high aromatic levels may cause greater swelling than either fuel component by itself."

[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 7/22/2013 1:46:38 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 1:16:19 PM

Ethanol does cause problems with fuel lines in other vehicles, like outboard boat engines. Therefore, I use Stabil or a similar product in my boat when I use E85. I would prefer that gas not have any ethanol in it.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 11:05:32 AM

The company that makes this additive published a white paper on fuel quality and it talks about ethanol. I got this from a great source on another site...It is probably the best on the subject frankly. And yes, it is from a company that makes Stabil Ethanol Treatment, but as far as these types of white papers go, this one from Gold Eagle really is not too bad. Look out for alot of BS from other companies, however...

Gold Eagle Products White Paper on Fuel Quality. Also talks about ethanol.

[Edited by: Hannie59 at 7/22/2013 11:07:26 AM EST]
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:54:37 AM

Boyrr,

The original product, called STABIL, is not a bad idea when storing an engine that won't be used for many months, but that is regardless of ethanol or not. Gasoline, whether or not it contains any ethanol, can cause problems if it sits for 6 months.

I am thinking you may be referring to a different product called STABIL Ethanol Treatment. That is the one I am saying is not worth it because it isn't needed. Long term storage is the enemy, not the fuel.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 10:29:49 AM

Never used it and never had problems starting engines in the spring, even after leaving E10 gas in the tank over the winter in my lawnmower.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 7:34:46 AM

I currently use this product every winter and have no problems when I start the engines in the spring.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 3:08:25 AM

This is nothing but snake oil. If you read the label you will see that they claim to do what ethanol already does.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 10:27:34 PM

Would elaborate on how ethanol prevents cross linking in gasoline?
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 9:05:01 PM

Other names that describe this product: mineral spirits, white spirits, stoddart solvent, vanishing oil, aliphatic naphtha.

Why would I willingly put this paint thinner in my gas tank? I guess you can always blame Ethanol for all the damages this product will cause.

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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 5:50:43 PM

Considering the Ethanol will do much of the same cleaning they're talking about, especially in the higher percentageblends, complete waste of money.

What I have an issue with it the water separation claim. If the ethanol can absorb the water in the fuel system and expel it by running it through the engine and run it out the back with the exhaust as well as the water created from the combustion process, why would I want to separate it and let the water sit in the tank and lines? Wouldn't that be more likely to cause the lines as well as any metal tanks to rust since oil and gas float to the top while water sinks..........not to mention what kind of damage might be caused if enough water separates from the fuel and gets picked up by the pump and sent to the engine since it would be sitting at the bottom of the tank.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 2:34:38 PM

Gold Eagle Produdcts is selling you snake oil. It is a waste, as ethanol is not a problem. They are trying to make a buck on fear.

[Edited by: Hannie59 at 7/21/2013 2:35:06 PM EST]
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