Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:37:56 AM
If you want to contend that corn isn't the best source for alcohol production feedstock, I won't necessarily disagree. If you contend that biobutanol is better, same thing. It may be. But now is now, and what alcohol we now have is far better than having NO choices.
I am with SS, how it's made would have to be the most economically and otherwise viable way. Corn is it for now here, but look at the much better sugarcane methods in Brazil. There are alot of reasons that clean, clear, alcohol is a fantastic source of transportation fuel. Who cares if it's corn or landfill waste as long as it's alcohol and derived from sunshine, I am good. Heck it can even BE butanol for all I care, that's a type of alcohol. Environmentally however, butanol is not as benign as ethanol.
I don't think the demonization of oil is our fault, their tactics have brought on this type of sentiment from me and I am sure others.
[Edited by: Hannie59 at 7/12/2013 10:43:32 AM EST]
borsht asks "Why should California be be forced to buy corn ethanol run in to california by train rather than use grass or something similar"
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:26:22 AM
Because they haven't yet found a way to do it economically. When they do, bring it on, I don't care how they make it.
On the west coast it is the environmentalist that have shut down supply.
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:18:49 AM
No drilling, no new refineries in decades.
I think most people are infavor of low cost alternatives.
But dumb is dumb.
There are a lot better ways to make ethanol than from corn!!!
IMHO, This is just another monopoly forming by demonizing oil.
Why should California be be forced to buy corn ethanol run in to california by train rather than use grass or something similar,and convert it to ethanol or butanol, which is a much better suited alternative than is ethanol. Now all the golden california grass is only used now to support summer fires.
Most people see that the corn ethanol just isn't compliant with old fashioned common sense.
That pissed me off before buying a flex fuel vehicle and helped encourage me to making the switch after buying it!
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:17:12 AM
Everyone can hurt them where it hurts by reducing their consumption.
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 9:55:31 AM