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bimini07

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 10:14:26 AM

Hi Guys,

I've spent countless hours and $$$ on repairs for my trimmer and blower. Issues started the day I started using Ethanol laced gasoline. Are there any gas stations that are Ethanol free around the I-10 Katy area? Wharton, Sealy or maybe Richmond? Can anyone please post a list of these? The pure-gas org website does not list any closer to the Houston area. The closest listed is more than an hour away.

Thanks
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2013 1:38:34 PM

Funny, I was asking one of the engine builders at a local high end car "Tuner" shop if they'd has issues and he said they've tossed things into drums of E98 for months at a time and not seen the damage that is claimed will happen.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2013 12:14:57 AM

"The effect on aluminum is similar, just slower." LOL! Yep, that 22 year old aluminum block push mower sure is taking a long time to disappear. Wonder how many more years it will take?
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borsht
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2013 12:36:15 PM

http://strohmautomotive.com
click on the link to their discussion on the use of Alcohol in old English cars. They have restored several MG's.
They are not in love with ethanol, but provide some guidelines on what to do with the inevitable.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2013 12:29:09 PM

For those who want to to conduct a simple experiment on how active ethanol is.
Just place some magnesium into a glass with E85 in it. You can watch it disappear. The effect on aluminum is similar, just slower.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2013 9:33:11 AM

So maybe the thousands of mowers, and trimmers, and chain saws operating in Manitoba on E10 every day have been made by companies that actually pay attention to the fuels available.
If you are getting units and parts incompatible with E10, which has been available for well more than 30 years, then you are dealing with crappy companies who are WAY behind the times in their R&D.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2013 3:35:54 AM

"@rumbleseat, not funny as I have experienced this first hand. Went and bought factory parts for the trimmer and blower for my two trimmers and two blowers from four different parts vendors in Houston. ALL four said the same thing.. that its the Ethanol eating up the parts."

There is only one problem with this statement. Parts vendors do not have polymer chemists on their staff and know little or nothing about compatibility with fuels and plastic components.

Real polymer experts know the real truth. Ethanol may not be perfect, but it is a heck of a lot better than gasoline.
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2013 9:06:32 PM

If they are having issues with materials being affected by a fuel additive that is being used and sold nation wide, why haven't they quit whining and make parts that are compatable unless they're just using it as an excuse to sell parts and throw the blame away from their own refusal to adapt and change. If automakers can make the change so their products are useable for what is being sold for fuel, there isn't one viable excuse that these companies should have for producing what is essentially an intentionally defective product. As for fuel gumming up, hasn't that been a problem with gasoline for decades now, with or without ethanol?

[Edited by: WhiskeyBurner at 6/21/2013 9:10:14 PM EST]
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bimini07
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2013 11:14:31 AM

@rumbleseat, not funny as I have experienced this first hand. Went and bought factory parts for the trimmer and blower for my two trimmers and two blowers from four different parts vendors in Houston. ALL four said the same thing.. that its the Ethanol eating up the parts.

Not only that on of the leading manufacturers forum... the technical support team themselves have complained that it's the Ethanol that is causing gumming problems as well as eating up the plastic parts pre-maturely... I will see if I can find the link... Don't think this is co-incidence.
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Dennis783
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2013 7:50:23 AM

we have it at every station in Des Moines
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2013 12:52:35 AM

$23.80 a gallon?! Might as well go to a local hobby shop and buy 10%-15% nitromethane fuel for R/C airplanes, IIRC that stuff is only around $20 a gallon!
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kennyman
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 9:06:58 PM

I don't like ethanol blend gas.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 5:21:44 AM

On Jun 18, 2013 9:41:08 PM, RedRider1OK wrote:

>The Home Depot carries a premix 94 octane ethanol free gasoline
>in quarts as I recall. Might be a little pricey

Only $23.80 a gallon. That's a good bit higher than the $3.89 I paid for Shell regular in Oklahoma last month! I could hardly wait to get back to Houston's $3.35 a gallon.

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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 5:13:14 AM

Harris County and all surrounding counties use Southern Reformulated Gasoline with E-10. I'd say an hour to get there sounds about right.

It would probably be cheaper in the long run to ditch the poorly made trimmer and blower and get ones that can use what is now the rule rather than the exception in fuel.
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2013 1:23:09 AM

That is funny, isn't it Rumbleseat? Heck, if I could afford one of HPI Racing's 1:5 scale radio control vehicle, I'd condsider running that on E85 instead of just E10.
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RedRider1OK
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 10:41:08 PM

The Home Depot carries a premix 94 octane ethanol free gasoline in quarts as I recall. Might be a little pricey buy compared to the frustration of buying or repairing your equipment it would probably be worth it.

VP ethanol free fuel at Home Depot



[Edited by: RedRider1OK at 6/18/2013 10:42:51 PM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 9:13:25 PM

Funny, everybody in Manitoba runs mowers, trimmers, snow-blowers, chain saws, and all kinds of small equipment on E10 because every regular pump in Manitoa has been E10 for several years, and the repairs they do seem to be the same they have always done, maintaining the units, and replacing worn-out or broken parts.
Even the professionals who are using this equipment every day haven't had any special problems because of E10.
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