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James48843

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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 8:51:17 AM

Speedway in Michigan has discovered that with the RIN - if they price E85 competitivley, (more than 15% spread) that volume takes off and people with flex-fuel cars begin to go out of their way to use flex-fuel E85.

I just paid $2.71 for E85 this morning in Ypsilanti, Michigan. Gasoline (E10) here is going for about $3.50 at most stations. At $2.71, E85 is a great deal. Renewable, and American-made.

Support America - by E85.

Thank you SPEEDWAY!
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BigHorne1
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 11:00:10 AM

This is absurd, we should be getting prices under three dollars all day long, without have E-85 blend in the gasoline.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 11:54:05 PM

"Where do you think the federal budget gets the money to reduce the cost of production? Your and My pockets! So much for passing the savings to the consumer!?! "

Hey, if you think your aren't paying enough in fuel taxes, send the federal government a few hundred extra, during tax season.
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teaman91
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 11:43:26 PM

2.89 for e85 here in omaha ne 28c cheaper than gas still not worth it to use it for me
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Wanda127
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 11:38:12 PM

I have not seen E85 in SW Florida yet which I believe is a good thing.
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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 8:34:52 PM

Soylent says; ".. It reduces cost of production, whtich gets passed on to the consumer in the form of lower retail price. "

Where do you think the federal budget gets the money to reduce the cost of production? Your and My pockets! So much for passing the savings to the consumer!?! Like buying the chinese junk at WalPuck.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 8:10:09 AM

"Giving industry's like farmers a (safety net) of being able to buy drought insurance at below market price, when they are growing crops for industry needs to be seriously looked at and they need to be seperated out from crops that are being produced for feed or food."

Growing crops for industry needs? Who buys "industry" product.? It's you. I'm a landowner and I don't like any kind of government intervention or subsidy. That said, take a close look at what government intervention is doing for the cost of the product you buy. It reduces cost of production, whtich gets passed on to the consumer in the form of lower retail price.

Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 12:37:19 PM

now the price for e10 in ypsilanti is 3.49 (leader board is 3.33 at sams)

My understanding from people that I trust is a 20% price difference... and your improvement may vary.

Interesting enough, the last price posted in an ethanol price site is 2.71 and it was in ypsilanti, MI by a James48843...

However today the prices are #8884 Speedway 1395 E Michigan Ave Ypsilanti MI 48198-5903
Unleaded: 3.479
E85: 2.779

Most of the fuel is american made in ypsilanti, be it ethanol or gasoline...

As for the Oil companies, Gauging, I think there is plenty of that being done by all the businesses in the energy sector. Competition is good, mandates are Bad... Giving industry's like farmers a (safety net) of being able to buy drought insurance at below market price, when they are growing crops for industry needs to be seriously looked at and they need to be seperated out from crops that are being produced for feed or food.


[Edited by: reb4 at 4/18/2013 12:42:45 PM EST]
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 2:42:50 AM

"Oil companies have gone to great lengths to try and bully stations into over pricing E-85!"

That is a correct statement. A few years ago I ran through the entire list of about 2000 stations that offer E85 and over 90% were major oil company owned. It was not surprising that they also had E85 listed at an unfair competitive price.

Lets face it, oil companies do not want the competition.

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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 7:23:34 AM

That's correct Goldseeker. If price and cost per mile is your motivation, you are better off with E-85 at 15% price spread or greater. However, when the spread is less than 15%, E-30 works in every car and it delivers the best cost per mile. Have to blend accurately, however, and that means knowing the capacity of the fuel tank on your vehicle.

Oil companies have gone to great lengths to try and bully stations into over pricing E-85!
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 3:35:39 AM

"it has to be priced at least 25% lower than gas to be equal to gasoline when it comes to real world MPG."

This is a false statement that the oil companies hatched several years ago. Regular E85 users know the real truth.
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streetirsx
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 12:18:26 AM

People should remember that E85 is an "alternative" fuel not a replacement for gasoline as it does not contain the same energy per gallon as gasoline does. it has to be priced at least 25% lower than gas to be equal to gasoline when it comes to real world MPG.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 10:14:11 AM

Price volatility has a large effect on this theory. Nice thought if enough suppliers would follow through.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 9:02:47 AM

Other stations need to look at that. Too many using E-85 to pad margins that can't get from gas.
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